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Pit Talk -- Comments and Questions Regarding These Pellet Pits => recteq => Topic started by: Ross77 on February 01, 2018, 12:46:53 PM
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They posted a video on FB.
3 new grills. Small, medium and large. They say the 680 is discontinued but the replacement looks very similar. All the grills have stainless bodies and WiFi.
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They say anything about Wifi for the 680?
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It looks like the grill body itself is the same dimensions between the 680 and the 700. Both have same size cooking surface according to the description on their website. The bull is just a couple inches taller but I assume that is just the base. They show both fitting on the competition cart.
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Interesting that they are backing off the warranty. All the new models only have 2 year warranty, the 680 had a six year.
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He showed a different deflector plate but the sound cut out so I’m not sure what that’s about.
Also, I didn’t notice an Xtreme Smoke button on the new controller.
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The wifi controller will be on sale for current rec tec owners for $99. Otherwise it's $199. Not a bad deal. I really wish they had a clean out similar to the camp chef. I really really like that.
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They appear to be including shipping in the price now. Everything says free shipping.
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It is my opinion that they missed the mark on the Trailblazer. Just from a price point. I was in the market for a mini and was going to buy one with my 680 but they discontinued it the week before. I have a Traeger JR Elite now and I just wanted to match. You can pickup a treager jr for $400 on sales, you can pick up a GMG DC for $350 on sales. I realize some might say apples and oranges because the RecTec is larger, better features, better built.. whatever. My point is that it is a price point thing on these smaller "portable" grills for me. I was ready to order a mini, I think I will be holding off on the trailblazer for now and keeping the traeger. $600 is just too much right now.
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The wifi controller will be on sale for current rec tec owners for $99. Otherwise it's $199. Not a bad deal. I really wish they had a clean out similar to the camp chef. I really really like that.
I'm a buyer at $99. I didn't see it on the website yet. Wonder when I can order.
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304 stainless steel heat deflector with integrated smoke tray •
Anybody know what the integrated smoke tray is?
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304 stainless steel heat deflector with integrated smoke tray •
Anybody know what the integrated smoke tray is?
He was saying it enables you to put extra pellets or wood chunks on top for extra smoke
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The wifi controller will be on sale for current rec tec owners for $99. Otherwise it's $199. Not a bad deal. I really wish they had a clean out similar to the camp chef. I really really like that.
I'm a buyer at $99. I didn't see it on the website yet. Wonder when I can order.
They said it's going to be a little while. They want to wait for them to come in before they put them on the website. They said something like 4 to 8 weeks, but don't quote me on that.
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The wifi controller will be on sale for current rec tec owners for $99. Otherwise it's $199. Not a bad deal. I really wish they had a clean out similar to the camp chef. I really really like that.
I'm a buyer at $99. I didn't see it on the website yet. Wonder when I can order.
They said it's going to be a little while. They want to wait for them to come in before they put them on the website. They said something like 4 to 8 weeks, but don't quote me on that.
I just watched that part of the video. 8-9 weeks.
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New controller:
200ºF to 500ºF in 5º increments
Bake, smoke, sear, grill, broil, roast, and even dehydrate
Dual meat probes (Probe A, Probe B)
Monitor 2 cooks simultaneously
LO setting • Xtreme smoke operates under 200ºF achieving maximum smoke output
FULL setting • Allows you to achieve temperatures above 500ºF
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Gonna be hard to dehydrate at 200°. Probably need to be in the 150°-180° range for jerky and maybe less for other items.
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Gonna be hard to dehydrate at 200°. Probably need to be in the 150°-180° range for jerky and maybe less for other items.
That's interesting. I wonder why this new one won't do 180 like the old one. Hmmmm
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Gonna be hard to dehydrate at 200°. Probably need to be in the 150°-180° range for jerky and maybe less for other items.
That's interesting. I wonder why this new one won't do 180 like the old one. Hmmmm
It does on the LO setting apparently.
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https://www.rectecgrills.com/content/BULLMANUAL.pdf
See page 9.
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I wonder why they dropped the red paint- that seemed to be part of the signature look of the Rec Tec.
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I wonder why they dropped the red paint- that seemed to be part of the signature look of the Rec Tec.
Unfortunately some people complain about the color all the time, RT tried the black and people were buying new lids, painting their red ones different colors, etc. I think RT is just trying to appeal to a wider base.
I am with you, I love the red it is signature color and I am sad to see it go. 100yrds away you could spot a RT, now it will be just another black grill..
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They appear to be including shipping in the price now. Everything says free shipping.
Everything over $99 will be Free Shipping per Ray on the FB video.
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Gonna be hard to dehydrate at 200°. Probably need to be in the 150°-180° range for jerky and maybe less for other items.
That's interesting. I wonder why this new one won't do 180 like the old one. Hmmmm
It does on the LO setting apparently.
Achieving 180 is difficult with the existing grills as well in warmer months. Looks like the minimum feed rate is easier to adjust with the new controller. The low setting sets the grill to feed pellets at the minimum feedrate, and doesn't try to maintain a certain temp.
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So it sounds like Xtreme Smoke only runs when the temp is under 200.
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I have had paralysis by analysis for the last few years and keep changing my mind on what pit to get. Rec Tec, then Yoder, then Memphis, then Cookshack, then Campchef, now back to Rec Tec. There isn't one pit that has everything I want which means that I keep not pulling the trigger.
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I have had paralysis by analysis for the last few years and keep changing my mind on what pit to get. Rec Tec, then Yoder, then Memphis, then Cookshack, then Campchef, now back to Rec Tec. There isn't one pit that has everything I want which means that I keep not pulling the trigger.
if you have the funds for the cookshack or yoder or memphis, then take a look at the pitts and spitts offering. If I were buying a new one today I would be looking at them pretty hard.
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For some reason I'm thinking the mid sized 590 will really fly out the door. 899 for all those features and more square inches than the MAK I have coming.
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Just watched the FB intro video. Cool stuff. Sounds like the first Bull purchase was in New Jersey. Another RT cooker in my state. Awesome. What was with the tease with the pit on a trailer at the end? It had the coloring of a 680, but looked bigger to me.
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For some reason I'm thinking the mid sized 590 will really fly out the door. 899 for all those features and more square inches than the MAK I have coming.
Yeah if I was in the market right now with nothing I would be scooping up the Stampede and a Bbullseye, pretty potent pairing.
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I really like the black in the new 700. I thought the red was cool out of the box, but quickly became yucky looking.
The stampede for some reason is very odd looking to me. Good size, but strange.
One thing that's always irritated me is their pricing. It's never actually the crossed out price, so don't act like its somehow on sale. It's not a used car lot. You are selling what you yourself call premium grills. Act like it, and just put the price that it is.
Now if they ever were actually the original price, then fine. Otherwise, just call it what it is.
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I have one of the new porcelain doors which still looks good albeit still only 1 year old. Although the red/orange door spells Rec Tec, I do like the look of the Black on stainless of the Bull. I agree with you FMT, the prices never change or have not in the time I have been looking, just show the price as it is. Price is competitive, product is competitive customer service is great, live on those principles, no need for gimmicks.
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I wonder why they dropped the red paint- that seemed to be part of the signature look of the Rec Tec.
What bothers me about the colors is I like things that match. I bought an RT680 and wanted to buy a mini to replace my traeger jr. Well they discontinued the mini the week I placed my order but everyone said there were making it better and bringing it back. I thought "that's good, I can just buy the new one". Well now it won't match. Sounds like a dumb problem but that's just me. So now I can keep the traeger, or buy the new trailblazer but either way it won't match the 680. I don't see if as reasonable to sell my brand new 680 to buy the bull so it will match. But I might do it because I am crazy that way. I might not though because I think that $600 for the trailblazer is a bit steep. IIRC the mini was $450 when ordered at the same time as a 680 with no extra freight.
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The Stampede reminds me of the Blaz’n.
Lots of choices now. The 680 with shipping included is essentially $200 cheaper than before. Not a bad deal if you don’t want WiFi.
I wonder how thick the SS body is on these.
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Was really interested in the stampede, but disappointed they went to 2 yr warranty. It looks like the bull has a 6 yr so not sure why the stampede doesn’t have the same. Also it doesn’t look like the fire pot is removable which seems to be almost standard these days. The screen also has me concerned for the longevity of it. I think I need to stop over analyzing and buy a Mak and be done with it.
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I overanalyzed a lot. It's a big purchase. After using the 680 for over a year I don't see the need for a removable fire pot. Whenever I clean mine out there doesn't seem to be much ash inside. I think the fan blows most of it out during the cool down cycle.
Are you referring to the controller screen? It looks similar to the Memphis screen. I don't think it will be an issue.
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I’m about the pull the trigger on a pellet grill. I’m willing to pay up for the right one. Thought I was sold on the Fircraft, but it’s 400 series stainless (as are these new red tecs on the external parts, internal is 303 or 304, which is preferred). Went back to the Yoder, but it’s gonna require constant touch up to stay on top of the rust possibly. Right now, it looks like a Blazn Grill..until these rolled out.
Only thing keeping me from one of the new Rec tecs...no open flame searing capabilities! Why not?
Memphis, Yoder, Blazn, Fast Eddy, Firecraft, Louisiana all offer it, but they decide against offering it...boggles my mind
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I overanalyzed a lot. It's a big purchase. After using the 680 for over a year I don't see the need for a removable fire pot. Whenever I clean mine out there doesn't seem to be much ash inside. I think the fan blows most of it out during the cool down cycle.
Are you referring to the controller screen? It looks similar to the Memphis screen. I don't think it will be an issue.
I love the ash dump system in the Camp Chef. I never thought I would look at that end of the pellet grill market, but that clean out system they have is very attractive to me. Not having to remove a bunch of stuff to clean out the fire pot is a huge deal. All it does is keep me paralyzed..lol. If the Rec Tec or any of the other upper end pits that I have looked at had something similar, I probably would have pulled the trigger by now.
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I love the ash dump system in the Camp Chef. I never thought I would look at that end of the pellet grill market, but that clean out system they have is very attractive to me. Not having to remove a bunch of stuff to clean out the fire pot is a huge deal. All it does is keep me paralyzed..lol. If the Rec Tec or any of the other upper end pits that I have looked at had something similar, I probably would have pulled the trigger by now.
Blazn Grills has an ash clean out drawer. Quick and easy. Plus it’s Double wall construction, etc. only thing it doesn’t have is a pellet dump, but neither does the Rec Tec
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I overanalyzed a lot. It's a big purchase. After using the 680 for over a year I don't see the need for a removable fire pot. Whenever I clean mine out there doesn't seem to be much ash inside. I think the fan blows most of it out during the cool down cycle.
Are you referring to the controller screen? It looks similar to the Memphis screen. I don't think it will be an issue.
I love the ash dump system in the Camp Chef. I never thought I would look at that end of the pellet grill market, but that clean out system they have is very attractive to me. Not having to remove a bunch of stuff to clean out the fire pot is a huge deal. All it does is keep me paralyzed..lol. If the Rec Tec or any of the other upper end pits that I have looked at had something similar, I probably would have pulled the trigger by now.
Is it typical to need to dump the ash during a cook? In the middle of a 10-12 hour low and slow cook? Or are you talking about afterward with general cleanup?
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I overanalyzed a lot. It's a big purchase. After using the 680 for over a year I don't see the need for a removable fire pot. Whenever I clean mine out there doesn't seem to be much ash inside. I think the fan blows most of it out during the cool down cycle.
Are you referring to the controller screen? It looks similar to the Memphis screen. I don't think it will be an issue.
I love the ash dump system in the Camp Chef. I never thought I would look at that end of the pellet grill market, but that clean out system they have is very attractive to me. Not having to remove a bunch of stuff to clean out the fire pot is a huge deal. All it does is keep me paralyzed..lol. If the Rec Tec or any of the other upper end pits that I have looked at had something similar, I probably would have pulled the trigger by now.
Is it typical to need to dump the ash during a cook? In the middle of a 10-12 hour low and slow cook? Or are you talking about afterward with general cleanup?
The cleanup afterwards. Having to pull everything apart in order to vacuum out the ashes has always seemed like it would be a pain to me. While a easy cleanup isn't a deal breaker, it sure is attractive.
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You have to take everything apart to clean out all the ash in the bottom regardless though. I clean mine every 5 cooks or so. There is never very much ash in the fire pot. Plenty of ash around the fire pot though which is why the removable fire pot wasn't a dealbreaker for me.
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FYI - Ray said the new controller will become available for 60 days at the price of $99 to current Rec Tec owners... once they actually have enough to sell separately from one of the new grills , I don't know that he gave any estimate of when that might be.
I'm one , who never was a big fan of a red grill with horns... I personally think the black and stainless is a big improvement just from an aesthetic perspective. But at the very least that new stainless body isn't going to bubble any paint if it gets really hot... ( might turn a bit yellowish, but well, that's a different matter ). I like the new look... and should be functionally better too. ( although I'm not sure they've announced exactly how thick the body is )
I've owned a Traeger Junior for years, which is the same size as the RT-340 ( Trailblazer ). Good size pit for a small family... can easily cook a full packer on one... With WiFi and what is almost certainly a better controller all around than anything Traeger offers in their affordable grills... and considering the shipping is free... I think the RT-340 will sell reasonably well... I know I'd buy one before I bought a similar size Traeger..
Now the of the three new style Rec Tec grills, the one that interests me the most is the RT-590... I think the octagon shape is likely to make the cooking room inside seem a little larger than if it were your standard 20" diameter barrel shape... I know I personally have been critical of the 20" barrel shape design... and this addresses that issue to some degree... but most of all, I think that the size / price ( considering the shipping is free ), and WiFi make this an attractive grill for many many people... I bet this grill will become their biggest seller.
RT-700 - The Bull... not that much to say here that hasn't been said about the two smaller grills... I'm still not fond of the 10" barrel shape, but I love the new look and the functionality that the stainless brings in terms of not having paint problems on the body if it should ever get super hot inside. Not really my cup of tea because of the size and such, but I see it as a better value than the RT-680 was when it was being sold for pretty much the same price after you figured in how much it cost you to ship them when shipping wasn't 'free'... I have no doubt at all , that this will be a very big seller and virtually anyone who does buy one will be just as loyal to Rec Tec as they ever where with any of the red grills that have been sold over the years...
One last thing... Yeah, 6 year warranty on the Bull is a nice offering to those who buy the most expensive of all the Rec Tec grills... but I'll say what I've said all along about 2 year warranties... Any part that's likely to fail from a truly defective part perspective, will fail in the first 2 years.... Getting warranty work on a part that's more than 6 years old , is really just beyond what is really required in a reasonable warranty... So, I personally don't see a issue with the 2 year warranties, other than clearly some people have always seen that whole warranty thing as such a big deal about Rec Tec... Having said that... based on how loyal Rec Tec owners have always been, I highly doubt that Rec Tec would leave a owner out in the cold if one of the parts fail on those grills after the 2 year warranty has passed... Besides, you'd have Ray's phone number anyway, you could always call him up like constantly if you were unhappy. :)
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I’m about the pull the trigger on a pellet grill. I’m willing to pay up for the right one. Thought I was sold on the Fircraft, but it’s 400 series stainless (as are these new red tecs on the external parts, internal is 303 or 304, which is preferred). Went back to the Yoder, but it’s gonna require constant touch up to stay on top of the rust possibly. Right now, it looks like a Blazn Grill..until these rolled out.
Only thing keeping me from one of the new Rec tecs...no open flame searing capabilities! Why not?
Memphis, Yoder, Blazn, Fast Eddy, Firecraft, Louisiana all offer it, but they decide against offering it...boggles my mind
Open flame is great. BUT, it can also be a huge hassle if you do mostly low n slow and only occasionally do hot grilling. Grease fires can be substantial. I had a DC that had been used for low n slow mostly. 1st time I went hot for grilling it was a blowtorch because all that low n slow drippings was everywhere and once it was hot and flame hit it, woooooff... If you hot grill all the time it is not an issue as it is constantly burned off in smaller doses. Just something to keep in mind regardless of brand you go with.
If you want to do searing I can fully recommend the bullseye as a good wood pellet searing station with direct flame to compliment any pellet grill you choose. I love my 680, but if I lost everything and had to buy again today I would probably go stampede and bullseye. The stampede is better sized for my low n slow needs and the bullseye is a phenominal griller. Rectec also porcelin coated the bullseye and tested the it with fires. The unit is made to take those flareups if you have them, though being hot all the time it is rare.
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I overanalyzed a lot. It's a big purchase. After using the 680 for over a year I don't see the need for a removable fire pot. Whenever I clean mine out there doesn't seem to be much ash inside. I think the fan blows most of it out during the cool down cycle.
Are you referring to the controller screen? It looks similar to the Memphis screen. I don't think it will be an issue.
I agree, I don't really have any ash in the fire pot itself, but rather in the bottom of the grill. Nothing a shop vac can't handle.
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I overanalyzed a lot. It's a big purchase. After using the 680 for over a year I don't see the need for a removable fire pot. Whenever I clean mine out there doesn't seem to be much ash inside. I think the fan blows most of it out during the cool down cycle.
Are you referring to the controller screen? It looks similar to the Memphis screen. I don't think it will be an issue.
I agree, I don't really have any ash in the fire pot itself, but rather in the bottom of the grill. Nothing a shop vac can't handle.
Same here. Honestly it does such a good job emptying the pot that is never has much more than a trace of ash. I have found I can go much longer between clean-outs on my 680 than I could my previous grill because there is no concern with it not lighting due to ash over the ignitor. I recall one clean-out I had over an inch of ash covering the entire belly of the grill, but the pot was basically empty.
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You have to take everything apart to clean out all the ash in the bottom regardless though. I clean mine every 5 cooks or so. There is never very much ash in the fire pot. Plenty of ash around the fire pot though which is why the removable fire pot wasn't a dealbreaker for me.
I overanalyzed a lot. It's a big purchase. After using the 680 for over a year I don't see the need for a removable fire pot. Whenever I clean mine out there doesn't seem to be much ash inside. I think the fan blows most of it out during the cool down cycle.
Are you referring to the controller screen? It looks similar to the Memphis screen. I don't think it will be an issue.
I agree, I don't really have any ash in the fire pot itself, but rather in the bottom of the grill. Nothing a shop vac can't handle.
Same here. Honestly it does such a good job emptying the pot that is never has much more than a trace of ash. I have found I can go much longer between clean-outs on my 680 than I could my previous grill because there is no concern with it not lighting due to ash over the ignitor. I recall one clean-out I had over an inch of ash covering the entire belly of the grill, but the pot was basically empty.
Wow, I always heard you had to clean the fire pot out after every cook. It sounds like they need to add a door across the whole bottom of the pits so you can open them and dump the ash. This would be so much easier than pulling it apart and then vacuuming.
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I am with lamrith and ross, clean out of the 680 has never been an issue for me. I considered the fire pot dump as a nice idea when I was painfully trying to decide which pit to get. At the end of the day, I found you have to take the drip pan out regularly to clean it or change the foil (I actually foil mine), and since you need to take the grates out to get to the drip pan, the only thing left is the heat deflector. Since all of those parts are coming out anyway, not a big deal to take out the heat deflector and vacuum everything. Only takes a minute if not less. I am very happy with the decision I made getting the 680, and it has done everything I have asked of it..... mostly to make me look like a better cook...hahaha.
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I am with lamrith and ross, clean out of the 680 has never been an issue for me. I considered the fire pot dump as a nice idea when I was painfully trying to decide which pit to get. At the end of the day, I found you have to take the drip pan out regularly to clean it or change the foil (I actually foil mine), and since you need to take the grates out to get to the drip pan, the only thing left is the heat deflector. Since all of those parts are coming out anyway, not a big deal to take out the heat deflector and vacuum everything. Only takes a minute if not less. I am very happy with the decision I made getting the 680, and it has done everything I have asked of it..... mostly to make me look like a better cook...hahaha.
Exactly. I clean the grates regularly, as well as the drip pan. Since I already have those removed I just get the shop vac out and clean out the ash. I feel like a removable fire pot is just one more moving part that could lead to part failure.
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I do wish they would have done away with the interior light. That is one feature I’ve found pretty worthless. Unless there is a secret to keeping the glass clean?
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You have to take everything apart to clean out all the ash in the bottom regardless though. I clean mine every 5 cooks or so. There is never very much ash in the fire pot. Plenty of ash around the fire pot though which is why the removable fire pot wasn't a dealbreaker for me.
I overanalyzed a lot. It's a big purchase. After using the 680 for over a year I don't see the need for a removable fire pot. Whenever I clean mine out there doesn't seem to be much ash inside. I think the fan blows most of it out during the cool down cycle.
Are you referring to the controller screen? It looks similar to the Memphis screen. I don't think it will be an issue.
I agree, I don't really have any ash in the fire pot itself, but rather in the bottom of the grill. Nothing a shop vac can't handle.
Same here. Honestly it does such a good job emptying the pot that is never has much more than a trace of ash. I have found I can go much longer between clean-outs on my 680 than I could my previous grill because there is no concern with it not lighting due to ash over the ignitor. I recall one clean-out I had over an inch of ash covering the entire belly of the grill, but the pot was basically empty.
Wow, I always heard you had to clean the fire pot out after every cook. It sounds like they need to add a door across the whole bottom of the pits so you can open them and dump the ash. This would be so much easier than pulling it apart and then vacuuming.
Yeah not sure how that could be accomplished as it does spread out all over the entire belly of the grill so entire bottom would have to open, then it goes everywhere? I love the idea though, just no idea how it could work.
I SHOULD clean mine more often, it is not that hard to pull 2 grates and the drip tray to clean it out takes 2 minutes, but I am just lazy and do not want to take it apart.
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As to the light I LOVE it and use mine literally every cook (dinner time here is dark 6mos of the year).
Cleaning is not too bad. Every 5 cooks or so I throw mine in a bowl of hot soapy water and let it soak for a bit then hit it with a scotchbright for a min or two and it is good to go. I usually do this as the grill is warming up for a cook if I motice it is really dim. I actually burned the bulb out on mine I use it so much and had to buy a replacement.
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Open flame is great. BUT, it can also be a huge hassle if you do mostly low n slow and only occasionally do hot grilling. Grease fires can be substantial. I had a DC that had been used for low n slow mostly. 1st time I went hot for grilling it was a blowtorch because all that low n slow drippings was everywhere and once it was hot and flame hit it, woooooff... If you hot grill all the time it is not an issue as it is constantly burned off in smaller doses. Just something to keep in mind regardless of brand you go with.
If you want to do searing I can fully recommend the bullseye as a good wood pellet searing station with direct flame to compliment any pellet grill you choose. I love my 680, but if I lost everything and had to buy again today I would probably go stampede and bullseye. The stampede is better sized for my low n slow needs and the bullseye is a phenominal griller. Rectec also porcelin coated the bullseye and tested the it with fires. The unit is made to take those flareups if you have them, though being hot all the time it is rare.
Is the bullseye gonna be a better griller than the stampede? Seems like the smaller one get hotter
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Open flame is great. BUT, it can also be a huge hassle if you do mostly low n slow and only occasionally do hot grilling. Grease fires can be substantial. I had a DC that had been used for low n slow mostly. 1st time I went hot for grilling it was a blowtorch because all that low n slow drippings was everywhere and once it was hot and flame hit it, woooooff... If you hot grill all the time it is not an issue as it is constantly burned off in smaller doses. Just something to keep in mind regardless of brand you go with.
If you want to do searing I can fully recommend the bullseye as a good wood pellet searing station with direct flame to compliment any pellet grill you choose. I love my 680, but if I lost everything and had to buy again today I would probably go stampede and bullseye. The stampede is better sized for my low n slow needs and the bullseye is a phenominal griller. Rectec also porcelin coated the bullseye and tested the it with fires. The unit is made to take those flareups if you have them, though being hot all the time it is rare.
Is the bullseye gonna be a better griller than the stampede? Seems like the smaller one get hotter
Griller yes, it is smaller and has direct flame to the meat you are cooking. It is designed 1st and for-most for grilling. The other pellet grills with indirect heat are designed more for low n slow cooking.
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Is the bullseye gonna be a better griller than the stampede? Seems like the smaller one get hotter
Griller yes, it is smaller and has direct flame to the meat you are cooking. It is designed 1st and for-most for grilling. The other pellet grills with indirect heat are designed more for low n slow cooking.
Wait...it has a direct flame capability ?? Which one??
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They go below 200 on the Lo setting. The Lo setting runs the auger at the lowest feed rate. The previous controller range was 180 to 500+.
I can’t use a direct flame on my 680 but with Grill Grates I get a good sear. Not quite the same as flame but close.
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They posted another video on FB answering questions. The SS body is 304 and 14 gauge.
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They posted another video on FB answering questions. The SS body is 304 and 14 gauge.
I called them and two people confirmed that the inside was 304, and the outside is 430 (which isn’t very good)
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They posted another video on FB answering questions. The SS body is 304 and 14 gauge.
I called them and two people confirmed that the inside was 304, and the outside is 430 (which isn’t very good)
Outside meaning the shelf? I thought the body was one piece? Interesting the outside and inside would be different.
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They posted another video on FB answering questions. The SS body is 304 and 14 gauge.
I called them and two people confirmed that the inside was 304, and the outside is 430 (which isn’t very good)
Outside meaning the shelf? I thought the body was one piece? Interesting the outside and inside would be different.
No....the body is 430, which means the body, along with the shelf, lid etc. 430 stainless is pretty, for a while. It’s prone to discoloration and rust due to the carbon content. It’s actually cheaper in some instances to use 400 series in fab work as it comes “pre-finished†for lack of a better term. If you used carbon steel, which would be better than 400 series, it would have to powdered coated after bending. The Yoder 640 is carbon steel, and painted instead of powdered coated with high temp paint. Look at the cheap stainless grills at Home Depot or Lowes...this is 400 series stainless.
Only these parts are the desired 304..which will last most of us at least 15 years, if not 25 years.
(2) 304 stainless steel cooking grates
304 stainless steel fire pot
304 stainless steel heat deflector with integrated smoke tray
304 stainless steel drip pan
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All of this is the lower quality stainless, which is not a bad thing at all. People get focused on the term “Stainless†and think it means “lifetimeâ€. If it was 304..it could very well be “lifetimeâ€
These are the items on the outside of the unit, that you see, and of course that includes the “cooking chamber†which is the body
Stainless steel cooking chamber • No paint to fade, flake, or fail
Iconic micro polished stainless steel bull horn handles • Feel the trademark REC TEC quality
Stainless steel hopper lid • Doubles as a warming surface
Stainless steel hopper lid piano hinge • Worry free operation for lifetime of your grill
Stainless steel fail-proof lid stops • Won't buckle, bend, or break
Stainless steel spill proof bucket hook • Keep grease bucket from getting knocked off
2 Stainless steel pull bar handles • Allows you to easily move your grill
Baked-on porcelain enamel lid with embossed REC TEC GRILLS logo • Cleans easily to maintain a vibrant, new appearance
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I beg to differ on that opinion of 430 stainless discoloration and rust... iv got a 430 ss grill that's sat outside uncovered for about 10 years it's got virtually no discoloration and any surface rust that may be there right now could very easily clean up... Nothing particularly wrong with good quality 430 SS.
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I beg to differ on that opinion of 430 stainless discoloration and rust... iv got a 430 ss grill that's sat outside uncovered for about 10 years it's got virtually no discoloration and any surface rust that may be there right now could very easily clean up... Nothing particularly wrong with good quality 430 SS.
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. The consistency of the 430 stainless from the Asian markets varies incredibly. If it’s domestic..then that is a moot point. 304 and 316 stainless that’s domestic, will often times cross certify to 303L and 304L from a domestic market, but rarely from an Asian market.
My posts on material being used is not knocking the choice of using 430, it’s a great choice in giving us a stainless exterior, that requires just minimal upkeep. It’s in response to another member saying it was all 304, which was incorrect.
I really like the new Grills (wish they had open flame) and the 304 Stainless inside over rides the stainless on the other parts. We also don’t have to worry about paint or powder coat flaking then dealing with the more major rusting of a bare carbon steel underneath. Just be prepared to use a good metal polish occasionally as part of a yearly routine and it’ll last for years
(Long story short) :)
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I'm intrigued by the new Stampede. Can anybody provide commentary on pros, cons, or experiences with this style of venting system? The Stampede has 3 slots/cutouts in the upper rear for venting as opposed to a more typical smokestack tube. At least that's what the pictures indicate.
I was wondering how that might influence the unit's ability to hold smoke and temperature. Thanks!
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I'm intrigued by the new Stampede. Can anybody provide commentary on pros, cons, or experiences with this style of venting system? The Stampede has 3 slots/cutouts in the upper rear for venting as opposed to a more typical smokestack tube. At least that's what the pictures indicate.
I was wondering how that might influence the unit's ability to hold smoke and temperature. Thanks!
It’s similar to the RecTec Mini that was cancelled a couple months ago. I don’t think there were any issues with temps or smoke.
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Just fyi, they also make some good looking SS "rain guards" for the vents on their accessories page.
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I'm intrigued by the new Stampede. Can anybody provide commentary on pros, cons, or experiences with this style of venting system? The Stampede has 3 slots/cutouts in the upper rear for venting as opposed to a more typical smokestack tube. At least that's what the pictures indicate.
I was wondering how that might influence the unit's ability to hold smoke and temperature. Thanks!
My Traeger JR vents this way. No problems except for wind. You have to make sure you are not sitting sideways in the wind or it can cause a flame out. This has happened to me and others I know that have JR's. Not sure about how the stainless steel vent caps would work but would probably help. Oh and rain falls right in and can fall onto the food at the right angle. But overall cooks just the same as any other.
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I was just about to buy the Stampede yesterday but honestly, this vent design is worrying me a bit. The idea of having a flame out due to a gust of wind in that vent is bothering me. Those vent accessories they have are inexpensive and look like they might help (certainly with keeping rain out).
Is a wind induced flame out a somewhat normal thing for pellet grills in general? Or just with this venting style?
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You might want to post a new topic asking this question. You might get more responses.
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I'm interested in one of the newer Rec Tec's myself but will wait on early adopters before I make my decision. I noticed in the manual on the Stampede they list a weight of 123 lbs. which seems to be on the light end of things for grills of this size, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but I have the time to wait for reports back. Besides it will give me time to look for alternatives to those handles if I decide to go with a Rec Tec, not a fan.
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Traeger Junior has the exhaust outlets along the back side of the main body... Firecraft Q450 also uses similar setup...
In general, I don't think it's a issue... other then maybe the fact that rain could get in those openings too. But as I understand it, there are some louvers that can be added, or are available.