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All Things Considered => General Discussion--Non food Related => Topic started by: Kristin Meredith on August 26, 2018, 12:34:16 PM
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We are now under a week until the Tide's first game, so I have officially changed my avatar to reflect the team which will dominate this year.
Looks like a few good games for opening weekend -- Washington v. Auburn, Michigan v. Notre Dame. Glad to see college football start up again! :cool:
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Although I am a big college football fan in general, had to mention I was able to spend the day in Annapolis MD today, and a little while on the Navel Academy campus...wow, very impressive, and to Rawhide's point (well almost) although still several months away, they are already completely focused on the Army / Navy game. I am 100% sure same over at Westpoint too. Not to steal the thread, but what great kids I was able to talk with from USNA today.
Ok as far as my CFB season? I am a big RU (Rutgers University) fan, and pay to be a University of Maryland fan ( my son attends UMD), so gonna be a long season for me. Gotta root and say, let's go B1G and "Go Army, beat Navy"! Grew up an army brat my whole life as my dad was career army...haha.
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I'm a Chapel Hill native (Tar Heel ticket holder) and a University of Colorado alum. My avatar refers to Ralphie the Buffalo that runs onto the field before Colorado football games. I'm pumped for another season to get started. Go Buffs! Go Heels!
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Those guys who run with Ralphie must be pretty strong because he is one big and powerful boy!
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NCAA hoodies 50% off on Amazon today for those that need more apparel for your team
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Those guys who run with Ralphie must be pretty strong because he is one big and powerful boy!
Ralphie is a girl ;) (and I claim this screen name with pride lol!)
There have been female handlers as well. You have to be a really fast runner with experience dealing with larger animals. Here's a 1 minute video of the handler tryouts.
https://cubuffs.com/news/2018/4/24/ralphie-handler-roster-set.aspx
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It's like Christmas. It's the most wonderful time of the year. :cool:
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Neat video, but it seems to me that if Ralphie is a female, she should be Ralphine. :pig:
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Dogs open up with the Vandals...what a name! * We then get University of Minnesota, I have no idea if we can play with any school in the Big 10, I guess I am gonna get to find out in about 18 days!
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What is a Vandal?
Don’t use your dictionary to find Idaho’s definition of a Vandal. No, Idaho’s student-athletes go by a name earned nearly a century ago by a basketball team coached by Hec Edmundson, whose teams played defense with such intensity and ferocity that sports writers said they “vandalized†their opponents. The mark made by that 1917 team went far deeper than wins and losses on the court. In 1917, Harry Lloyd “Jazz†McCarty – a writer for the student newspaper, the Argonaut – subtly tagged the team with a new nickname in a pregame write-up: “The opening game with Whitman will mark a new epoch in Idaho basketball history, for the present gang of ‘Vandals’ have the best material that has ever carried the ‘I’ into action.†McCarty’s indirect suggestion stuck. By 1921, McCarty and Edward Maslin Hulme, the dean of the College of Liberal Arts, succeeded in their push to have Vandals officially adopted as the nickname for Idaho teams.
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We are now under a week until the Tide's first game, so I have officially changed my avatar to reflect the team which will dominate this year.
Looks like a few good games for opening weekend -- Washington v. Auburn, Michigan v. Notre Dame. Glad to see college football start up again! :cool:
Nothing against you Kristin, but if LSU wins only one game you know which one I want. Living in Alabama and having several good friends that turn into the worse obnoxious Elephant fans there is is not fun.
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ruebenray, you need to be just as obnoxious back. Come on man, it is college football season. We went to an FSU - USC game at the Coliseum and FSU got whipped. The USC fans (there are no more obnoxious fans in the world, believe me; they were raised as privileged brats and show it!) were trying to rub it in people's face on the way out. I waited until we got to an exit tunnel -- where it would reverberate -- and lead a chant of "Who Let the Dogs Out!" -- in their house, after we lost. Lots of FSU fans joined in and it was deafening. So we lost, we played well and it doesn't mean we are down and out.
What do coaches say to their players as they leave the field? Hold your head up, kid, hold your head up.
So when I say "Roll Tide Roll" I expect a "Geaux Tigers" back from you :cool: To me, it is all part of college football. ;D If you don't believe me, just watch Trooper and my posts!!!
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A bad 3rd quarter for Dogs D, but I also remember some turn overs. 42-41 Fresno State with 6 minutes to go.
One of the best Football game I have ever attended...Reggie Bush 23 for 294...I think Reggie Bush just scored again right now!
Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 Score
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Fresno State........ 7 14 7 14 - 42 Record: (8-2)
USC Trojans......... 7 6 28 9 - 50 Record: (11-0)
Come on man, it is college football season. We went to an FSU - USC game at the Coliseum and FSU got whipped.
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I guess the premier game this weekend is my beloved Huskies vs Auburn. It's a fitting start for the Pac 12 conference.
We go way over there for a 'neutral field' game. How does a game 108 miles from your home stadium count as a 'neutral' field in the heart of the SEC? The closest PAC 12 team we play is against the Beavers and they're 256 miles away.
At least it's on ABC (which I don't have access to). I'd be interested you your take of how the game went.
Go HUSKIES!
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Only about 10 weeks before basketball season starts....... ::)
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Only about 10 weeks before basketball season starts....... ::)
Bassetball doesn't start till after January of the preceding football year. :D
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ruebenray, you need to be just as obnoxious back. Come on man, it is college football season. We went to an FSU - USC game at the Coliseum and FSU got whipped. The USC fans (there are no more obnoxious fans in the world, believe me; they were raised as privileged brats and show it!) were trying to rub it in people's face on the way out. I waited until we got to an exit tunnel -- where it would reverberate -- and lead a chant of "Who Let the Dogs Out!" -- in their house, after we lost. Lots of FSU fans joined in and it was deafening. So we lost, we played well and it doesn't mean we are down and out.
What do coaches say to their players as they leave the field? Hold your head up, kid, hold your head up.
So when I say "Roll Tide Roll" I expect a "Geaux Tigers" back from you :cool: To me, it is all part of college football. ;D If you don't believe me, just watch Trooper and my posts!!!
Here is what we say when they say the RT words. We won't say the RT words.
Round the bowl and down the hole.
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I'm looking forward to another UCF national championship. :pig: :P Hopefully the Gators will finally start on the upswing again this year. It's been depressing for the last several years.
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Dogs open up with the Vandals...what a name! * We then get University of Minnesota, I have no idea if we can play with any school in the Big 10, I guess I am gonna get to find out in about 18 days!
I was at the Fresno St vs Colorado game in 2001. We (CU) didn't convert the 2-point try to tie the game in the 4th quarter. Lost by 2. That loss ended up keeping us out of the BCS national championship game. Nebraska ended up playing in the national title game after we beat them 62-36 in final game of the regular season. We went on to beat Texas in the Big 12 championship game.
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I'm looking forward to another UCF national championship. :pig: :P
I'll be at the UCF vs North Carolina game in September!
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I guess the premier game this weekend is my beloved Huskies vs Auburn. It's a fitting start for the Pac 12 conference.
We go way over there for a 'neutral field' game. How does a game 108 miles from your home stadium count as a 'neutral' field in the heart of the SEC?
I feel your pain. Two years ago my Tar Heels played the kickoff classic season opener against University of Georgia at a neutral site....The Georgia Dome.
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Yup, just changed my avatar.
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Although they have 6 National Championships in their trophy case it has been a long time since the MN Gophers have fielded a competitive team. Although 3 ex-Gopher QB's have made it as NFL coaches (Tony Dungey, Pete Carroll, Mark Tressman).
Bentley, I think Fresno State has a good shot at victory coming up on the 8th. Looking forward to your visit here.
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And so it begins for my Huskies and the pac 12. Then the MSM has the audacity to blab about the disparities in the SEC and The PAC 12. Really folks? All the SEC games (or any east coast conference (and the Midwest)) get day game broadcasts. The PAC 12 may get a handful of eastern time games. Seriously... how many folks on the east coast are watching west coast football at 9:00-10:00 PM? There's a good case to be made that the bias is real and the PAC is seeing the brunt of it. OK.
My Huskies lost to Auburn the 1st game of the year by 5 points. It was a great game, and the Huskies had ample chances to win. Last week, Stanford was ranked 9th due to a win over USC who is looking rather pathetic with their only win against UNLV. They jumped to #7 by beating UC Davis (in the 'Treehouse') while the Huskies beat Utah on Utah's turf. The Huskies didn't budge in the ranks. Stanford has 3 home games (San Diego State, USC, and UC Davis). The Huskies are on the road against Auburn and Utah, and home for N Dakota. Really?
And what's with Notre Dame? They beat #19 Michigan, Ball State, and Vanderbilt.... and they're ranked #8? How does that werk?
Tune in next week for my latest rant... >:(
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How times have changed! I played there in 1978-79 and we did not even have scholarships! Portland State would have been a big game for us at that time!
They jumped to #7 by beating UC Davis (in the 'Treehouse')...
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And so it begins for my Huskies and the pac 12. Then the MSM has the audacity to blab about the disparities in the SEC and The PAC 12. Really folks? All the SEC games (or any east coast conference (and the Midwest)) get day game broadcasts. The PAC 12 may get a handful of eastern time games. Seriously... how many folks on the east coast are watching west coast football at 9:00-10:00 PM? There's a good case to be made that the bias is real and the PAC is seeing the brunt of it. OK.
My Huskies lost to Auburn the 1st game of the year by 5 points. It was a great game, and the Huskies had ample chances to win. Last week, Stanford was ranked 9th due to a win over USC who is looking rather pathetic with their only win against UNLV. They jumped to #7 by beating UC Davis (in the 'Treehouse') while the Huskies beat Utah on Utah's turf. The Huskies didn't budge in the ranks. Stanford has 3 home games (San Diego State, USC, and UC Davis). The Huskies are on the road against Auburn and Utah, and home for N Dakota. Really?
And what's with Notre Dame? They beat #19 Michigan, Ball State, and Vanderbilt.... and they're ranked #8? How does that werk?
Tune in next week for my latest rant... >:(
LSU took care of Auburn for you.
Now if we can only do that to Alabama!!!
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Ahhh, ruebenray, it is so nice when people dream :pig:
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Best play ever!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=nAJFLzfRLWM
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Ahhh, ruebenray, it is so nice when people dream :pig:
It is not helping LSU that we have to play 6 SEC teams in a row. Alabama will be number 5 of 6.
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Sooners looking good so far. Not sure Sooner defense will get it all together but looking better this year. Interesting that Kyler Murray has the same stats as Baker Mayfied had after the first two games. Just one total yard less. Just as much fun to watch also. Army next week at Norman. Problem is that at the end of the year, they will still have to play Alabama or Clemson or Georgia. On the other hand, Murray has the advantage of $4.5 million in advance from Oakland to play baseball. I would have taken that and run, but then, he did not ask me.
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Yup, just changed my avatar.
Come on Cajuns!!!!
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Fresno State is ranked No. 20 in the AP poll!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:
I can't remember the last time they were ranked -- 6 or 7 years ago maybe? Keep up the good work Dawgs!!!
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As KSU wildcat fans, we humbly bow our head. You gotta whisper this around here but it's time for Bill to go.
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As KSU wildcat fans, we humbly bow our head. You gotta whisper this around here but it's time for Bill to go.
I am a lifetime Sooner, but I too felt sorry for Bill. I am grateful that he was a great mentor for Bob Stoops many years ago. He still coaches well IMO but does not get the best of the recruits. On the other hand, wasn't Kyler Murray fun to watch. I think he is better than Baker Mayfield and in a more mature way. If not the winner, he will be second place for the Heisman, unless Alabama has a big hiccup before season end. (not likely). He is eligible for another year, but will most likely play baseball instead. He already has a 4.7 million $ contract with the Oakland A's. Have never seen such a talented athlete (and only 5ft 10in). :2cents:
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UCF is up to 9. Unfortunately I don't think they will go undefeated this year. I wish they would, because the trolling is fun. On the downside though, my Gators lost to freaking Georgia. :puke:
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As KSU wildcat fans, we humbly bow our head. You gotta whisper this around here but it's time for Bill to go.
I am a lifetime Sooner, but I too felt sorry for Bill. I am grateful that he was a great mentor for Bob Stoops many years ago. He still coaches well IMO but does not get the best of the recruits. On the other hand, wasn't Kyler Murray fun to watch. I think he is better than Baker Mayfield and in a more mature way. If not the winner, he will be second place for the Heisman, unless Alabama has a big hiccup before season end. (not likely). He is eligible for another year, but will most likely play baseball instead. He already has a 4.7 million $ contract with the Oakland A's. Have never seen such a talented athlete (and only 5ft 10in). :2cents:
Agree entirely, my old boss is very close friends with Sean Snyder, Bill wants him to follow up. I have been told that Sean is not interested? Just wish that people would realize when the time has come, hard to witness the other way.
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In 9 days, UK will play Duke in basketball, and no one around here cares. Strange times......
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In 9 days, UK will play Duke in basketball, and no one around here cares. Strange times......
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In 9 days, UK will play Duke in basketball, and no one around here cares. Strange times......
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Please know I do not doubt you, but I never thought I would ever see this statement. To me that would be like replacing BB with football and the school with Alabama!
In 9 days, UK will play Duke in basketball, and no one around here cares.
Sorry, didn't make myself clear. I meant to say "No one around here in Kentucky cares, not in PH.
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Big day in college football today. Many playoff hopes could be dashed. Ruebenray, do you have any sense of how far in the polls LSU will fall after they lose tonight? :pig:
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Big day in college football today. Many playoff hopes could be dashed. Ruebenray, do you have any sense of how far in the polls LSU will fall after they lose tonight? :pig:
I certainly didn't see that coming... 29-0? ???
I don't see them dropping too far as a result because it is the SEC and all.
Let's look at the top 10 teams (because we can). :pig:
1) Alabama has only played 5 teams with winning records.
2) Clemson has played 5.
3) LSU has played 8.
4) Notre Dame has played 4.
5) Michigan has played 7.
6) Georgia has played 6.
7) Oklahoma has played 5.
8) WSU has played 6.
9) Kentucky has played 6.
10) Ohio State has played 2 (one of which they lost).
Can ya tell I'm whining here?
I'll throw my hat in the ring with LSU. My Huskies have played 8 teams with winning records and have lost 3 games by a Total of 10 points. 10 points on the entire season!
This is the stuff statistics are made for. ::) Strength of schedule? Pfffttt....
Carry on.
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Roll Tide!
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Not sure of the relevance of a "winning record" at the time a game is played. Cal had a "winning record" when they played the Huskies -- 4 wins and 3 losses -- and no one thought or thinks Cal is a big threat. In fact, I thought the Huskies would easily handle them and was very surprised.
Not a huge believer in strength of schedule because it is not well defined, but I do think you can look at the quality of the teams you are going up against and make a judgement. I mean, no one really thought Hawaii was going to be a tough win for FSU, yet at game time Hawaii had a "winning record" of 6-3.
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1) Alabama has only played 5 teams with winning records.
2) Clemson has played 5.
3) LSU has played 8.
4) Notre Dame has played 4.
5) Michigan has played 7.
6) Georgia has played 6.
7) Oklahoma has played 5.
8) WSU has played 6.
9) Kentucky has played 6.
10) Ohio State has played 2 (one of which they lost).
After Alabama, I think it will be tough to decide the next 3 teams to make the playoffs out of Clemson, Notre Dame, Michigan, and Oklahoma assuming all of them do not lose a game again. Georgia will lose to Alabama so they are out and LSU has already lost to Alabama.
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Big day in college football today. Many playoff hopes could be dashed. Ruebenray, do you have any sense of how far in the polls LSU will fall after they lose tonight? :pig:
Being we could not score a single point who knows. That big fat Elephant was to big for us and it was very tough. :)
GEAUX TIGERS
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Bulldogs up next. Hope they can hold Alabama to less than 50.
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I watch that game last night and thought to myself, man, maybe the FUS Bulldogs did better then I though against Bama in 2016!
Big day in college football today. Many playoff hopes could be dashed. Ruebenray, do you have any sense of how far in the polls LSU will fall after they lose tonight? :pig:
Being we could not score a single point who knows. That big fat Elephant was to big for us and it was very tough. :)
GEAUX TIGERS
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https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Toughest-schedules-in-college-football-2018-121096013/#121096013_1
No Alabama fan will admit that they had/have an easy schedule and was given another National Championship due to it. Alabama is not even listed in the toughest top 20 teams. The National Champions should be given a hard schedule not an easy one.
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The teams pick their own schedule with the exception of in conference requirements. Alabama is very good again this year, and yes they have an easy schedule. LSU has issues on both lines and no real offense once again... I'm sad, but kinda used to it.
Geaux Saints! :clap:
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The teams pick their own schedule with the exception of in conference requirements. Alabama is very good again this year, and yes they have an easy schedule. LSU has issues on both lines and no real offense once again... I'm sad, but kinda used to it.
Geaux Saints! :clap:
Hopefully the Saints will pull one out today.
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Hey, I learned the hard way in law school that having a tough schedule gets you squat -- all employers cared about was the GPA. So, here I was taking really tough tax and SEC reg classes and antitrust and getting an A in a few but more often a B. But, I thought, employers will recognize that I was taking the tough rode. What a laugh -- the folks taking Cakewalk Law 101 and getting high GPAs were getting the offers. I learned the hard way we are a shallow society.
I use to say the same about FSU and Boise State. Pat Hill was out there "taking on anyone" and losing to big time programs and getting the heck beat out of his team in the first 3 weeks, which translated to them being beat up for conference play and not finishing at the top. Chris Petersen played a much easier schedule, threw in some cupcake teams to start, and began to win the conference championship year after year and go undefeated several years and eventually played in -- and won -- the Fiesta Bowl.
No one remembers how hard or easy your schedule, they just remember if you made it to the National Championship. If playing an easy schedule gets me there, bring on the easy schedule. Play smart. So maybe Ed will start getting an easier schedule in years to come.
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Being we could not score a single point who knows. That big fat Elephant was to big for us and it was very tough. :)
GEAUX TIGERS
Oh for the days of Billy Cannon. He and I played in the same time frame but for different Louisiana schools. ;D
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The teams pick their own schedule with the exception of in conference requirements. Alabama is very good again this year, and yes they have an easy schedule. LSU has issues on both lines and no real offense once again... I'm sad, but kinda used to it.
Geaux Saints! :clap:
Hopefully the Saints will pull one out today.
LSU has no offense and the Saints don't play defense. Luckily we know how to throw a party with all the fixings. ;)
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At least the Saints win takes a little of the sting out of the LSU lose.
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Yeah, my Rams got a wake up call today!
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Yeah, my Rams got a wake up call today!
But your Chargers looked good on the road at Seattle. Still hard to call them the "LA" Chargers. Either way the road to the Super Bowl for the AFC still goes thru Foxboro. Hard to believe Brady has FIVE Super Bowl rings.
I don't see anyone that can stop Bama from getting another title this year.
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I aint no San Diego fan!
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GO!
COUGS!
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Well, I am sure you can all just imagine my relief this morning when Dozer came out wearing a Bama kerchief. I mean, it would have been so awkward if he was an Auburn fan! Glad to see the Huskies prevail. Did your team win on this rivalry weekend?
Roll Tide! :cool:
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WOOF
Pac 12 North champions. Will handle the Utes, and lose in the Rose Bowl. :(
But the payout is good...
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Go Auburn!!!!
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Does no one have a defense anymore? Sheez......
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Evidently not in the SEC.... I would love to see them start going out and showing how good they are all over the country (west coast/Rockies not the other side of the Mississippi) or even playing 9 conference games but that will never happen. Like has been said before why look to play harder schedule if they don't have too. I did watched the game and it was good to see they finely look like they could pass the ball at will this year or could just be the SEC defenses. Sounds like QB has Heisman all but delivered as the best football player out there. Be nice to see another top ten QB drafted out of Alabama since Richard Todd.
Just my response to the question put out there but if it was a rhetorical question free to delete my response.
Mudflap
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We get Boise State on the blue turf for the 2nd time for the MW Championship. Ya got win to be the best. Win or lose, we still get to sit at the kids table when the Bowls are announced!
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We get Boise State on the blue turf for the 2nd time for the MW Championship. Ya got win to be the best. Win or lose, we still get to sit at the kids table when the Bowls are announced!
As will the MN Gophers. Bowl eligible by the skin of their teeth. But ended the season in a big way vs Wisconsin.
Perhaps a rematch in a bowl game with your Dawgs?
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I sure would like to see it,but I am not sure since the playoff format started if the conferences still have ties to certain bowl games, and 2-5 are locked in!
Perhaps a rematch in a bowl game with your Dawgs?
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Rose Bowl baby! :cool:
THIS is what the bowls mean. Take me back 50 years and play the games... When they meant something other than $$$
WOOF!
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Roll Tide!
So glad Jalen Hurts got a second chance. Georgia played a good game, but couldn’t finish,
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Roll Tide!
So glad Jalen Hurts got a second chance. Georgia played a good game, but couldn’t finish,
I agree about Hurts!!!
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Alabama needs to turn pro to make it fair for the rest of college football.
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Finally 1-10 on the Blue!
On to the Las Vegas Bowl and the 6th team from the Pac-12, yeah. Wow, what a fricken let down! Man, does that tell you what the bowl folks think of the MW!
Here, have some crumbs of this cracker!
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Finally 1-10 on the Blue!
On to the Las Vegas Bowl and the 6th team from the Pac-12, yeah. Wow, what a fricken let down! Man, does that tell you what the bowl folks think of the MW!
Here, have some crumbs of this cracker!
Congrats on the win over Boise St.
Have to agree on the bowl situation. I’m sure 12-0 UCF will get passed up again this year. And the last two championship games last night had teams with lopsided records.
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Sooners in the final 4. Will play Alabama in the Orange Bowl. The much maligned defense played a good game against Texas. Made the big difference. Kyler Murray is amazing to watch. He may end up with the Heisman next week, since Tua had a less than spectacular day and was injured in the Georgia game. Murray has him beaten in about every category, running, passing and the Sooners are the first team in NCAAF history to average over 500 yds per game. (the defense is improving since Mike Stoops left)
Boomer Sooner!
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Feel like I have a connection with U of Minn now. One of the few bowl games I will watch!
Quick Lane Bowl
Minnesota vs. Georgia Tech
5:15 p.m. ET, ESPN
Ford Field | Tickets
Detroit
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xxxx. UCF was robbed again. Does anyone know how strength of schedule is actually determined, because no one can tell me that the PAC 12 is that much better than the AAC this year. I don't even think the ACC was that much better than the AAC this year (aside from Clemson)
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xxxx. UCF was robbed again. Does anyone know how strength of schedule is actually determined, because no one can tell me that the PAC 12 is that much better than the AAC this year. I don't even think the ACC was that much better than the AAC this year (aside from Clemson)
Sorry about being robbed. But you get to play my team in the Fiesta Bowl.
GEAUX TIGERS!!!!
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That's gonna be a fun game. LSU is gonna come in ready to play, so it will be a nice test. It's a shame your CB declared for the NFL.
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xxxx. UCF was robbed again. Does anyone know how strength of schedule is actually determined, because no one can tell me that the PAC 12 is that much better than the AAC this year. I don't even think the ACC was that much better than the AAC this year (aside from Clemson)
First lets start by saying I also think your team got robed. 12-0 in any other conference would have made it. The quote below says it should work that way.
As for the AAC being better than Pac 12 goes I'm not so sure on that. Now we can argue ranking system all are lifetime(I don't agree with it also) but Pac 12 having 3 teams in top 20 and the AAC having 1 in top 25(they do have 1 more at 28) makes them better how? Only one team in the conference was even ranked throughout the year. Then they finish 3rd behind Temple. My belief is that every conference (except the SEC) needs to go out and play ranked teams to get a fair shake at the CFbP system that is in place. We will be stuck with a system like this until the ESPN contract for the SEC network runs out in 2034.
I do think the Pac 12 stunk also.
Mudflap
Hey, I learned the hard way in law school that having a tough schedule gets you squat -- all employers cared about was the GPA. So, here I was taking really tough tax and SEC reg classes and antitrust and getting an A in a few but more often a B. But, I thought, employers will recognize that I was taking the tough rode. What a laugh -- the folks taking Cakewalk Law 101 and getting high GPAs were getting the offers. I learned the hard way we are a shallow society.
I use to say the same about FSU and Boise State. Pat Hill was out there "taking on anyone" and losing to big time programs and getting the heck beat out of his team in the first 3 weeks, which translated to them being beat up for conference play and not finishing at the top. Chris Petersen played a much easier schedule, threw in some cupcake teams to start, and began to win the conference championship year after year and go undefeated several years and eventually played in -- and won -- the Fiesta Bowl.
No one remembers how hard or easy your schedule, they just remember if you made it to the National Championship. If playing an easy schedule gets me there, bring on the easy schedule. Play smart. So maybe Ed will start getting an easier schedule in years to come.
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The top 25 is a very subjective ranking system where the power 5 conferences are assumed to be better than the group of 5. That means that any group of 5 strength of schedule is assumed to be weaker because they play other group of 5 teams in their conference. So, when a group of 5 team loses to another group of 5 team, they are penalized for it. Also, when the season starts, it's almost exclusively power 5 teams in the top 25. This means that at the beginning of the season, the power 5 strength of schedule is just assumed to be tougher, because look at all those top 25 teams they have to play. As a conference the AAC is undefeated against the PAC 12 this year and 3-3 against the ACC. This could lead anyone to believe that perhaps the AAC might be a lot tougher conference than they are given credit for.
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I agree about the SEC comment especially Alabama. They get to pick what ever weak teams they will play outside of the conference games. The higher ranked teams should be made to play more of the other higher ranks teams and not non-ranked teams. I will be rooting for Oklahoma and Notre Dame. I get tired of watching the same teams in the championship games over and over.
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The top teams/conferences get to pick from the the cream of the crop when it comes to recruiting. That's how they stay on top. All the better players want to play with successful programs. The other conferences get to fight over the leftovers.
Would like to see other teams in there as well but unless things change I don't see anyone beating Alabama. We'll see.
As for UCF they seem to be a smaller, lighter, faster team. But when playing teams from the main conferences I think the big defensive and offensive lines would grind them down and wear them out. Those big lines like running people over. We will see when they play LSU. Should be interesting.
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The top teams/conferences get to pick from the the cream of the crop when it comes to recruiting. That's how they stay on top. All the better players want to play with successful programs. The other conferences get to fight over the leftovers.
Would like to see other teams in there as well but unless things change I don't see anyone beating Alabama. We'll see.
As for UCF they seem to be a smaller, lighter, faster team. But when playing teams from the main conferences I think the big defensive and offensive lines would grind them down and wear them out. Those big lines like running people over. We will see when they play LSU. Should be interesting.
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Of course, that was the argument last year when they played Auburn. Everyone predicted an Auburn blowout. Of course, after Auburn lost, the narrative changed. Then it became "Auburn didn't really care about the game because it wasn't the playoffs, so they didn't bring their "A" game." The narrative constantly shifts depending on whether they are talking about the power 5 or group of 5. When Notre Dame almost lost to Pitt, a team UCF crushed, the discussion is how they gritted out a win on an off day which is what great teams do. When Memphis played UCF close, it is pointed out they almost lost to a bad Memphis team, not that they gritted out a win. Group of 5 teams don't get credit for gutting out wins on an off day. Heck, Ohio State got stomped by Purdue and should have lost to Maryland, and they were still in the playoff discussion, while UCF just wins and can't even get into the discussion. The only reason their is any talk about UCF at all is because their AD is a genius and claimed a national title last year.
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I dont like to say it, but having had to watch Bama play way more then I wanted to this year, no one is going to beat them. Georgia should be in the 4, as they were the only team to give them a game. I have never seen a team that can adjust as much as they do for their opponent in the 2nd half. And they simply have instilled in them that if they don't quit, they are a better team then their opponent and they will win!
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I dont like to say it, but having had to watch Bama play way more then I wanted to this year, no one is going to beat them. Georgia should be in the 4, as they were the only team to give them a game. I have never seen a team that can adjust as much as they do for their opponent in the 2nd half. And they simply have instilled in them that if they don't quit, they are a better team then their opponent and they will win!
Wow, amazing to read this since every week all I hear is how much he hates Alabama and hopes ANY team will beat them.
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As I said, I don't like to have to say it!
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As a conference the AAC is undefeated against the PAC 12 this year and 3-3 against the ACC. This could lead anyone to believe that perhaps the AAC might be a lot tougher conference than they are given credit for.
(Used team standings overall record not just conference)
AAC #2 team Cincinnati over Pac 12 #11 team UCLA :clap:
AAC #5 team Huston over Pac 12 #8 team Arizona :clap:
The year NCAA went to the BCS champion ship games the bowl games started to mean nothing but $$$ for the schools. That is why I only watch my team if they are lucky enough to play. As for the other games I could not care less.
Mudflap
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This is why I only watch the LSU games and at my home. I don't care about watching the other teams or what they are doing. Having Alabama shoved down everyone's throat on Saturday where I live at is part of not liking or even hating Alabama. The RV resort I live at has more owner's that are for other teams instead of Alabama. The only hope for Alabama to fail is to get caught in some type of recruiting issue.
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xxxx. UCF was robbed again. Does anyone know how strength of schedule is actually determined, because no one can tell me that the PAC 12 is that much better than the AAC this year. I don't even think the ACC was that much better than the AAC this year (aside from Clemson)
Gator Dave, there is no doubt you were robbed. I really thought UCF should have been given a higher ranking considering their total body of work. That being said, do you think the injury to Milton played a part in the voting by the committee? They seem to be projecting a lot of intangibles into their selections. UCF has a great program and I hope they continue to do well.
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xxxx. UCF was robbed again. Does anyone know how strength of schedule is actually determined, because no one can tell me that the PAC 12 is that much better than the AAC this year. I don't even think the ACC was that much better than the AAC this year (aside from Clemson)
Gator Dave, there is no doubt you were robbed. I really thought UCF should have been given a higher ranking considering their total body of work. That being said, do you think the injury to Milton played a part in the voting by the committee? They seem to be projecting a lot of intangibles into their selections. UCF has a great program and I hope they continue to do well.
Honestly, no. I don't think they would have moved them either way. The power 5 and ESPN own the playoff, so I don't see them ever wanting to split that pie. I don't think that UCF could beat Alabama or Clemson this year, but against anyone else, I would give them a fair chance. I'm not even 100% sure they wouldn't give Clemson a tough time. The perception is, that since they aren't a power 5 school, they can't be as good, which, if you have watched a lot of them, you know isn't true. They are fast, skilled, and deep at just about every position. Their defense could definitely be better, and isn't quite as deep as the offense, but when they need a stop or a turnover, they get it. Heck, their third quarter defense is one of the best in the country. Think about this. They went undefeated in 2017, which is tough to do. Then they had to replace the entire coaching staff, and they go undefeated again in 2018. One of the best quarterbacks in the country gets injured? No problem, just plug in another guy and win. LSU is going to be a really good test, and a fun game to watch. I only wish they could have gone to the peach bowl and play Florida. That would have been even more fun. The party is going to end sometime, but it sure is a fun ride for now.
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If they beat LSU maybe UCF could join the ACC or SEC? They will need to bring their A game to beat LSU. Best of luck. We’ll be watching. Should be a good game!
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I dont like to say it, but having had to watch Bama play way more then I wanted to this year, no one is going to beat them. Georgia should be in the 4, as they were the only team to give them a game. I have never seen a team that can adjust as much as they do for their opponent in the 2nd half. And they simply have instilled in them that if they don't quit, they are a better team then their opponent and they will win!
If the Sooners beat Bama, I will send you a couple of crow's to smoke for dinner. Given that OU is a 14 pt underdog at present. If the offensive line (best in NCAA) can keep Murray protected, it will be lights out. Sooner defense had a great game against Texas but will have to go up a notch for Bama. I seem to remember that we beat them the last 3 times we played them(2014; 2003; 2002). Tied them 4 games ago (1970) and only time we have lost to them was in 1963. Watcha think?
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I think OU is gonna get crushed!
I do not say this to antagonize or out of any love for Bama, just my observations. I have no dog in the hunt. It would bring me great pleasure to see Sooners win!
I think Alabama is that strong!
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You haven't played against Saban.
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You haven't played against Saban.
Yes we have. In 2014 we were the underdog again and we beat them 45 to 31. Surprised everyone including me. I agree that Bama is one of the most powerful balanced teams I have seen, but offensively, the Sooners are the best I have ever seen. And I have been watching them for over 72 years. Murray is better than Mayfield! He never lost a game in Highschool, and the only college game he lost was earlier this year against Texas--which he avenged last week. I am encouraged by the improvement in the defense in the last game so there is hope. Hope you get to watch on the 29th. Go Sooners
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Sorry, wasn't clear. To my knowledge, your head coach has never coached against Saban. But I hope it is a good game. I hate where one team dominates the other. Nothing to watch.
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Sorry, wasn't clear. To my knowledge, your head coach has never coached against Saban. But I hope it is a good game. I hate where one team dominates the other. Nothing to watch.
I agree. A lot will depend on which team maintains its sharpness over the long layoff for the holidays. Hard to keep all those kids focused on the prize with all the parties, events, and awards. Not sure if Tagovailoa will be 100% since high ankle sprains take a long time to heal. Also, not sure Marquis Brown ("Hollywood") will be available for the Sooners. OU will not disclose the nature of injuries of it's players. I could not have written a more complex plot. So there we go. :2cents:
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xxxx. UCF was robbed again. Does anyone know how strength of schedule is actually determined, because no one can tell me that the PAC 12 is that much better than the AAC this year. I don't even think the ACC was that much better than the AAC this year (aside from Clemson)
While I agree that UCF got 'robbed', I have to ask; to What degree? Yes, a12-0 record is worthy of attention. Every conference has winners and losers.
I would love to see UCF play the Huskies. The Pac 12 eats each other alive (as do some other power 5 conferences). There's no way UCF goes 12-0 in the Pac 12.
You can't look at wins/losses and equate that to a 'powerhouse' program. That's why they have strength of schedule included in the equation.
UCF has a SOS of 71. Oregon St. was ranked at 67 and finished the season at 2-10 (1-8 in the Pac).
Would love to see you beat LSU.
Go Knights!
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xxxx. UCF was robbed again. Does anyone know how strength of schedule is actually determined, because no one can tell me that the PAC 12 is that much better than the AAC this year. I don't even think the ACC was that much better than the AAC this year (aside from Clemson)
While I agree that UCF got 'robbed', I have to ask; to What degree? Yes, a12-0 record is worthy of attention. Every conference has winners and losers.
I would love to see UCF play the Huskies. The Pac 12 eats each other alive (as do some other power 5 conferences). There's no way UCF goes 12-0 in the Pac 12.
You can't look at wins/losses and equate that to a 'powerhouse' program. That's why they have strength of schedule included in the equation.
UCF has a SOS of 71. Oregon St. was ranked at 67 and finished the season at 2-10 (1-8 in the Pac).
Would love to see you beat LSU.
Go Knights!
You are making the same mistake that so many make. Strength of schedule has nothing to do with how good or bad a team is, only the level of competition they are playing. Saying UCF would lose most of their games if their schedule strength was higher is a huge leap. Personally, I think UCF could very well have gone undefeated in the PAC 12, since I think they are having a somewhat down year. Do you know how they calculate strength of schedule? I have no idea how they actually determine it. I have found info on the BCS era, but nothing on how they determine it today, so I am a bit skeptical of what SOS is actually tells us. If rankings are used at all in it, then it is very suspect.
As far as being robbed, I don't think that Ohio state, who has looked terrible at times this year should be ranked ahead of UCF, and I definitely don't think a 2 loss Michigan should be ranked ahead of them. Georgia is pretty darn good, even with 2 losses, so I'm not sure that UCF would hold up against them, but I do think UCF could beat Notre Dame(not would, but could). LSU is going to be a decent test, because without Milton, our passing game isn't quite as good. UCF's offensive line is really really good, so I think they will be able to run some, but I'm not sure if they will be able to run enough to make the passing game easier on our backup. He's pretty good, but not quite as accurate as Milton, and definitely not as seasoned. It will be a nice test though.
Oh, and another thing on the SOS, since the SEC commish decided to weigh in on it today. UCF tries to schedule tougher teams, but none of them want to play UCF. They feel it's a no win situation. Maybe SOS should be determined by the teams that decide they don't want to play you..lol. I say to the SEC commissioner, put your money where your mouth is. Make your teams schedule UCF.
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I was under the impression that SOS is based -- at least in part -- on how many ranked teams you played in a season. A somewhat nebulous concept at best since a team can start out ranked as number 3, lose a few games, and end the season not ranked. Auburn, many years, is a classic example of this. So, a team gets the SOS benefit from where that team started out, but seems no detriment from their fall.
Converse is also true -- Fresno State ended as No. 19 in Coaches Poll and Boise No. 23, but I doubt that any of the MW teams got the benefit of a bumped up SOS from playing 2 ranked teams.
I understand the desire to recognize that some teams play a tougher schedule, but not sure I agree with the execution. And I really don't agree with the concept of a "power conference". Look at the SEC (and I love the SEC)
Georgia 7-1 11-2
Kentucky 5-3 9-3
Florida 5-3 9-3
So Carolina 4-4 7-5
Missouri 4-4 8-4
Vanderbilt 3-5 6-6
Tennessee 2-6 5-7
WEST CONF OVR
Alabama 8-0 13-0
Texas A&M 5-3 8-4
LSU 5-3 9-3
Miss State 4-4 8-4
Auburn 3-5 7-5
Ole Miss 1-7 5-7
Arkansas 0-8 2-10
Look at the bottom 3 and 4 in each division. I mean, does anyone really think that Ark, Ole Miss, Auburn,Tenn, Vanderbilt etc were challenging opponents in those conferences? But we give the SEC that myth. There are folks a lot smarter than me with respect to this stuff, so I am sure a good alternative could be found. There is just no incentive to do so -- not when alum from the big schools that benefit from the old system have so much money and power.
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There are 130 schools in the Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS). There are 33 Bowl games, excluding the current playoff system. Interesting, 33 bowl game, that requires 66 teams. How many teams start off in March Madness? So I am going to assume that about half of the 130 schools win at least 6 games/season. So, much like today, if you have to win at least 6 games to qualify for a playoff, you are going to have roughly the same amount of teams?
So if we have a 10 game regular season, and we start the playoff the weekend after Thanksgiving...32 games in week 1, 16 games week 2, 8 games week 3, 4 games week 4 and then a National Champion right after the 1st of the year. My Bulldogs are 11-2 right now and play their 14th and final game December 15th. I can guarantee you a 20-22 year old will be able to make their tired, old body play that 15th game...
We just need more discussion like this through out the Nation to bring it about and the Rose Bowl type bowls need to get on board or schools with a loosing record play in their game...
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Hmmmm....should Alabama kept their QB in the game for more than the first half for each game this year so he could have won the Heisman trophy? Granted, I have not watched much college football this season and have not watched one down of Oklahoma, but seems to me from what I have read and stats that the guy from AL probably had better stats if they were extrapolated over a full game than anyone in the country. So, should he be penalized for an individual award because he got his job done in less time and could be afforded the luxury of sitting the rest of the game to avoid injury, get someone else experience, not run up the score, etc. ? Based on the little information I have, I think he lost the award because he and his team were too good. What do y'all think?
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Give the award to a defensive player and I will pay attention to it...Until then, it is just an offensive award to me!
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Give the award to a defensive player and I will pay attention to it...Until then, it is just an offensive award to me!
I don't follow NCAA close enough these days. Was there a defensive player worthy of the award? The last one I recall worthy of it was the DB/LB/KR from Michigan a few years ago so much so I don't remember his name but I think he plays for the Browns now.
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The only defensive player I found was 1961 Ernie Davis who was both a halfback and linebacker, so not a true defensive player. To me, it is not only an offensive award, but it seems to be becoming a quarterback award. I'll be honest, I just don't think you can determine one man on a football squad from one team in the entire nation is the best. And I am constantly amused that it is someone like a quarterback because where would he be without his line? So I guess I never really followed it.
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1997 Charles Woodson cornerback and punt returner
Jabrill Peppers was the most current player I was originally thinking of. He came in 5th place in 2016.
Seems to be almost a curse to win this award over the last 20 years or so. Not many winners have had very good NFL careers.
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And they gave it to his as a punt returner!
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Well, if you look at the trophy the guy has a ball in one hand and the other giving a stiff arm. I suppose it could go to a defender who either 1) picked up a lot of fumbles or 2) made a lot of interceptions and was headed the other way (now on offense).
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Football's a team sport where most players have to submerge their identities into the team identity. But there are positions where the players' contributions are more noticeable. Of the linemen, it's easier to notice the defensive linemen's contributions.
Other team sports look more like a gathering of individual sports. Volleyball stands out in particular.
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Well as usual there are always those who are critical of the method of choice. Many winners have not had a 100% winning record, i.e. Lamar Jackson, and Baker Mayfield. And many times the Heisman winner does not win his bowl game. There is more to the judging than just difficulty of schedule and winning record. The judges are a large group of 870 Sports Writers in 6 regions of US (145 in each region). These are folks who are professionals at viewing and sifting the performances of NCAA teams and players. There were 58 or so living past Heisman winners that each get 1 vote. So about 929 +- voters are involved. Each voter can vote 1st, 2nd or 3rd place for eligible players. 1st place vote is 3 points, 2nd place is 2 points, and 3rd place is 1 point.
Murray had 517 first place votes and enough 2nd, and 3rd place votes for a total of 2167 votes. 3rd all time highest vote.
Tagovailoa had a total of 1891 votes for second. The highest 2nd place total in all the 84 yrs.
Murray had 276 more points that Tua. Thats it.
Now the Orange bowl will decide which is the best team on that day of Dec. 29, 2018, and the quarterbacks will have a lot to do with that, but so will a lot of others, --on both teams. The odds are against the Sooners, and rightfully so. But we shall see. I think if you watch this game (barring freak accidents, and bad breaks etc) you will be amazed at both teams. And even if Tua is unable, then Jalen Hurt will be lead his team well as he did last week. If the Sooners lose, they will not be "crushed" IMHO. My prediction: None.
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Yes there have been defensive nominees. 1986 Bryan Bosworth (the Boz) was nominated and finished in 4th place behind Vinny Testaverde, Paul Palmer, and Jim Harbaugh. He was that good (or better) but had personal problems to overcome, which he has done!
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Yes, I know there have been defensive players nominated, but -- to be a bit blunt -- so what? Do you remember who finished 4th at the Indy 500 even two years ago? And, good grief, let's not get started with Johnny Manzel's personal problems but he still won. It is an award meant not only for offensive players, but really backs and receivers. Fine, just say so. Don't make it appear you have picked the best in college football.
And as for those picking, I would love to know how many of those sportswriters who are in a non-Pacific zone are staying up until 1 am to watch a college football game on a consistent basis? The West Coast and Mountain time zone teams consistently get crummy times for the start of their games -- not a whole lot of folks willing to watch games with a 10:30 pm start time.
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Congrats to The University of Minnesota for laying a whoopin on Georgia Tech!
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Congrats to The University of Minnesota for laying a whoopin on Georgia Tech!
And to the Wisconsin Badgers for laying a whoopin' on the Canes.
Go Big Ten!
Trooper's Spartans have a game coming up on Monday. Any other Big Ten supporters here?
Al
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Go Orange!
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Congrats to Auburn for a big whooping on Purdue (63 to 14). !!!!!!
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They certainly did. I was afraid of that.
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West Virginia is no threat without Will Greer. Money talks louder than honor! Win lose or draw, I will always respect Kyler Murray for going ahead for the the Sooners this year, and especially staying aboard for the Orange Bowl.
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And the Pac12 FINALLY gets a bowl win via the Cougars of WSU. :cool:
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And yet another Big Ten team bites the dust.
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Sorry about that Z, but I thought Michigan was overrated all year.
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They did have 4 quality players declare for the draft...
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A lot of schools have quality players, it takes more than that to make a top ranked team.
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Just watched another example of why if a college team is undefeated doesn't mean they are any good...
Mudflap
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Wow! I would hate to be a ND fan right now...cuz that team had no business in the playoff!
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I think UCF could have done as good, if not better, than ND. I hate the bias of the play off system.
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ND has been a media darling for as long as I can remember.
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ND overrated. Time for them to finally join a conference. No more free rides.
Z
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ND overrated. Time for them to finally join a conference. No more free rides.
Z
I've often wondered how that werks...
My understanding is a portion of the bowl money goes into a bucket and split up with the other schools in the conference.
If ND is 'independent'; they get to keep it all?
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Sorry about that Z, but I thought Michigan was overrated all year.
Not a Michigan fan just rooting for Big Ten teams in the bowl games. I know Trooper was happy with the result but pretty positive his wife was not. He’s a big Michigan State fan as many of you know.
Z
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Wow! I would hate to be a ND fan right now...cuz that team had no business in the playoff!
so far looks like the same could be said for Oklahoma too....bad day for college football as these games are jokes
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Dang! Tua put up some gawdy numbers in that 1st half. :o
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ND overrated. Time for them to finally join a conference. No more free rides.
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I've often wondered how that werks...
My understanding is a portion of the bowl money goes into a bucket and split up with the other schools in the conference.
If ND is 'independent'; they get to keep it all?
Last years $$$
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristidosh/2018/01/01/how-have-college-football-playoff-payouts-compared-to-bcs-a-conference-by-conference-breakdown/#6ca2b6572938
Mudflap
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Wow! I would hate to be a ND fan right now...cuz that team had no business in the playoff!
so far looks like the same could be said for Oklahoma too....bad day for college football as these games are jokes
It's a game of 4 quarters. I never count on anything until the final whistle.
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Wow! I would hate to be a ND fan right now...cuz that team had no business in the playoff!
so far looks like the same could be said for Oklahoma too....bad day for college football as these games are jokes
It's a game of 4 quarters. I never count on anything until the final whistle.
Did I see that Saban is 102-1 when up by 21 points earlier?
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No, 103-1.
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Man, the sports writers are trashing Notre Dame this morning -- "frauds", "should have never been in the playoffs", "lots of teams deserved that 4th spot -- Ohio State, Georgia, UCF -- but not ND". And frankly, I have to agree with them.
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Agreed. Time for ND to get real and join a conference. If they do not & they go undefeated again I think the selection committee would have a hard time choosing them again.
Because of the lopsided games I think the system is broken . . . either that or the two teams that won are playing on a much higher level than those in the rest of the country.
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Because of the lopsided games I think the system is broken . . .
I think the system is very broken and I hope bowl games like this start a re-evaluation process.
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Because of the lopsided games I think the system is broken . . .
I think the system is very broken and I hope bowl games like this start a re-evaluation process.
I agree. I also think the top 10 teams should be made to play other top 10 teams a certain amount of games each year. I know some Alabama fans that would not watch them play against smaller non-ranked teams, because they want to see a decent game and not a slaughter. The schedules for some teams are way to easy compared to other teams.
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I don't know how that would work ruebenray. Schedules are set 2 and 3 years in advance, way before rankings are known. And, even if they are known at the start of the year, they change. For example, when LSU played Auburn this year, Auburn was ranked no. 7. By the time Alabama played them -- in the same season -- they were unranked. So, both LSU and Alabama played the same Auburn team in the same year, but LSU received the benefit of playing a top 10 ranked team and Alabama got nothing.
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Good luck to Trooper and the men of Sparta today!!!
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How about that in the off season, you rank every team in the nation using a computer algorithm that considers previous year won/loss, returning starters, ranking, strength of schedule, etc. and require that 4 non-conference dates, two home and two away, be played against teams of equal ranking. Then after the regular season, you rerun the algorithm substituting injuries for returning starters and let the results dictate the playoff/bowl teams. :2cents:
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Just follow the money...
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The Pac12 went 2-1 on the day. :) Both were ugly games (1 point wins).
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The Pac12 went 2-1 on the day. :) Both were ugly games (1 point wins).
Funny, what you consider ugly wins Bobitis, I consider great defensive games -- something rarely seen in football anymore! And two equally matched teams which has been very rare in this bowl season.
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A challenge with what some of you are requesting for scheduling is that teams have their schedules locked in for up to 10-20 years in advance with some teams. The NCAA would have to come out and say all those contracts are cancelled. It could be devastating to some of the small schools getting paid big $ by the big schools to play them. Lawsuits will be flying all over the place.
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There are 130 schools in the Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS). There are 33 Bowl games, excluding the current playoff system. Interesting, 33 bowl game, that requires 66 teams. How many teams start off in March Madness? So I am going to assume that about half of the 130 schools win at least 6 games/season. So, much like today, if you have to win at least 6 games to qualify for a playoff, you are going to have roughly the same amount of teams?
So if we have a 10 game regular season, and we start the playoff the weekend after Thanksgiving...32 games in week 1, 16 games week 2, 8 games week 3, 4 games week 4 and then a National Champion right after the 1st of the year. My Bulldogs are 11-2 right now and play their 14th and final game December 15th. I can guarantee you a 20-22 year old will be able to make their tired, old body play that 15th game...
We just need more discussion like this through out the Nation to bring it about and the Rose Bowl type bowls need to get on board or schools with a loosing record play in their game...
If possible this would be the best and easiest way.
Mudflap
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Some bad officiating in the LSU-UCF and they seem to be harming LSU more than UCF.
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Some bad officiating in the LSU-UCF and they seem to be harming LSU more than UCF.
Why is the field so wet for a domed stadium? Did someone leave the door open? :)
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The field is on a "tray" with rollers and it rained last night. Not sure when they moved the field into the stadium. I didn't hear any comments on that.
That was a sloppy game and all the other stuff. Glad they won. :clap:
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The UK - Penn State game was a surprise to me. :clap:
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The field is on a "tray" with rollers and it rained last night. Not sure when they moved the field into the stadium. I didn't hear any comments on that.
That was a sloppy game and all the other stuff. Glad they won. :clap:
Being UCF was self declaring themselves as the National Champions is LSU now the self declared National Champions. :)
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UCF robbed again
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The field is on a "tray" with rollers and it rained last night. Not sure when they moved the field into the stadium. I didn't hear any comments on that.
That was a sloppy game and all the other stuff. Glad they won. :clap:
Being UCF was self declaring themselves as the National Champions is LSU now the self declared National Champions. :)
I remember laughing at that last year. They do have a good team, but no reason to get carried away. Mass hysteria or non-stop happy hour? :beer:
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Did you know that by population, UCF is the largest university in the country?
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Good luck to Trooper and the men of Sparta today!!!
Awww
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Looking ahead . . . 'Bama by 17
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I could see this being a 3 point game...either way! I think 6.5 for Bama is a bit much, but those guys are usually pretty close.
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Division 1 FCS Championship Game
On Saturday, January 5th, North Dakota State University will play Eastern Washington for the Division 1 Football Championship Subdivision national championship. The NCAA classified the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) as Division 1-AA prior to 2006.
The game will be televised: Saturday, January 5, Noon ET, ESPN2.
North Dakota State University (NDSU) won D1-FCS National championships in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2017. When they were a Division 2 team, they won national championships in 1965, 1968, 1969, 1983, 1985, 1988, and 1990.
Their coach, Chris Klieman, 68–6 (.919) at NDSU, has accepted the Head Coach position at Kansas State University.
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KState is very fortunate!!!
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Division 1 FCS Championship Game
On Saturday, January 5th, North Dakota State University will play Eastern Washington for the Division 1 Football Championship Subdivision national championship. The NCAA classified the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) as Division 1-AA prior to 2006.
The game will be televised: Saturday, January 5, Noon ET, ESPN2.
North Dakota State University (NDSU) won D1-FCS National championships in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2017. When they were a Division 2 team, they won national championships in 1965, 1968, 1969, 1983, 1985, 1988, and 1990.
Their coach, Chris Klieman, 68–6 (.919) at NDSU, has accepted the Head Coach position at Kansas State University.
Several of those titles they were led by none other than Carson Wentz - now best known as QB of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Al
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The Division 1 FCS Championship Game starts in 15 minutes, Noon ET, ESPN2.
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Several of those titles they were led by none other than Carson Wentz - now best known as QB of the Philadelphia Eagles.
Al
now best known as the often injured QB of the Philadelphia Eagles
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Boy, would I like to have some money on Clemson with 6.5 right now! That must have been an easy bet for a lot of wealthy Alumni!
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Congrats to Clemson, they just crushed Alabama (although Bama did not help themselves on some of those plays). Clemson was just dominant and was the better team last night.
Ah well, there is always 2020!!!
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Pretty disappointing college football playoff games this season and a lot of the bowl games too. Maybe the top 4 go to the playoffs and then the bowl games should be 5 v 6, 7 v 8, etc to see if the games become any better. Do away with the commitment of #8 in Big 10 goes to X bowl game system they have now.
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I don't follow football very closely but I kinda' know the rules.
If a kickoff goes 10 yards, it's "on side" and, like a fumble, it's anyone's ball to recover. So, if a kickoff goes into my end zone and I walk away, letting it lay, can't the kicking team recover it in the end zone for a touchdown?
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I don't follow football very closely but I kinda' know the rules.
If a kickoff goes 10 yards, it's "on side" and, like a fumble, it's anyone's ball to recover. So, if a kickoff goes into my end zone and I walk away, letting it lay, can't the kicking team recover it in the end zone for a touchdown?
Rules changed recently where they get ball on 35 yard line or something like that so they no longer have to catch it or they can signal fair catch.
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I don't follow football very closely but I kinda' know the rules.
If a kickoff goes 10 yards, it's "on side" and, like a fumble, it's anyone's ball to recover. So, if a kickoff goes into my end zone and I walk away, letting it lay, can't the kicking team recover it in the end zone for a touchdown?
OK I think I understand it know. If the ball crosses goal line(neutral zone) without touching any member of the receiving team then it is a dead ball. The Kicking team may get the ball(onside kick) after it travels more then 10yrds (or touches player on receiving team) but not after it crosses the goal line(neutral zone)unless it is touched by receiving team.. Rule 6-3-1. I think???? :help: Need a lawyer to read it...
https://www.ruletool.info/ncaa-rule-6-kicks/3/
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Interesting. I knew about the fair catch inside the 25 yard line rule change because of the NCAA's press release–
"The NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel approved altering football’s kickoff rules to allow the receiving team to fair catch the kick inside the 25-yard line and have it result in a touchback.
"The Football Rules Committee made the proposal to continue efforts to increase the number of touchbacks during kickoffs since fewer injuries occur during kickoffs that result in touchbacks than on kickoffs that are returned. All other aspects of the kickoff play will remain the same.
"The new rule is the latest in a series of changes the committee has made in recent years in hopes of making the play safer."
But note that they wrote, "All other aspects of the kickoff play will remain the same." So it didn't appear that the ball in the end zone could be abandoned.
EDIT: Punctuation.
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Interesting. I knew about the fair catch inside the 25 yard line rule change because of the NCAA's press release–
"The NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel approved altering football’s kickoff rules to allow the receiving team to fair catch the kick inside the 25-yard line and have it result in a touchback.
"The Football Rules Committee made the proposal to continue efforts to increase the number of touchbacks during kickoffs since fewer injuries occur during kickoffs that result in touchbacks than on kickoffs that are returned. All other aspects of the kickoff play will remain the same."
"The new rule is the latest in a series of changes the committee has made in recent years in hopes of making the play safer."
But note that they wrote, "All other aspects of the kickoff play will remain the same." So it didn't appear that the ball in the end zone could be abandoned.
I think that is the way it always has been. rule3-2-1 A is not highlighted so I think it didn't change it was a old rule. I just think the players understand the kickoff rules better with learning the new rules so you see it more often. I thought the same thing at the start of the year. I was yelling at the TV because my team just walked away from a ball in the end zone on a kickoff...
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I never thought I would get old enough to say it sure is a different game.
In 6 years of football, my helmet came off inadvertently once, and that was in warm ups.
Maybe I had several and just did not know it, but I don't ever remember having a concussion, but again, in all seriousness, maybe it happened and no one even thought to check to see if it did. But maybe the game has become so much rougher. I do remember one play that it might have happened on...
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I never thought I would get old enough to say it sure is a different game.
In 6 years of football, my helmet came off inadvertently once, and that was in warm ups.
Maybe I had several and just did not know it, but I don't ever remember having a concussion, but again, in all seriousness, maybe it happened and no one even thought to check to see if it did. But maybe the game has become so much rougher. I do remember one play that it might have happened on...
I know I've had at least 3 and maybe 4. Two of them were playing basketball. I was undercut and landed on my head on the outdoor blacktop court. The other 1 or 2 were playing football. I came up for a tackle as a CB and got a knee to the temple and was out cold.
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Yesterday, North Dakota State University won their record eighth FCS National Championship (in nine seasons). They also won five NCAA Division II titles from 1983-90. That kind of dominance may not be good for the division.
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Yesterday, North Dakota State University won their record eighth FCS National Championship (in nine seasons). They also won five NCAA Division II titles from 1983-90. That kind of dominance may not be good for the division.
Didn't there coach take a job at a D1 school this year or last year?
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Didn't there coach take a job at a D1 school this year or last year?
Yeah, Chris Klieman, 68–6 (.919) at North Dakota State, is now the Head Coach at Kansas State University. 2019 was his first season at K State. I think they went 8-5 overall, 5-4 in their Big 12 conference.
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Didn't there coach take a job at a D1 school this year or last year?
Yeah, Chris Klieman, 68–6 (.919) at North Dakota State, is now the Head Coach at Kansas State University. 2019 was his first season at K State. I think they went 8-5 overall, 5-4 in their Big 12 conference.
K State’s claim to fame this last year was for knocking off number 1 Oklahoma.
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Based on how MLB is having challenges right now, I find it harder to believe there will be a Fall college football season this year. Hopefully, they could still play in the Spring if they have to postpone the Fall play and things improve before Spring. Seems like most of the smaller college leagues have already kicked the can down the road with only the leagues that make the big money delaying their decisions.
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I cant see any Division going forward. Although Kristin read that Mayberry schools will have Fall sports starting in Winter, or something like that. Football in the snow, now that would have been very interesting for me, i only played one game in the rain, and that was only one quarter. So that would really have been a different experience.
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Will this mean LSU will the National Champions this year also by default? :lick:
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Yes, until a new one is crowned.
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Rumors circulating that the 5 big conferences are meeting to discuss pushing football season to the Spring. Its an unfortunate situation for these students, but probably the correct decision to make. Looks like the same thing is happening to high school sports here in PA too.
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Fresno St #18
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Now that I am living in Arkansas I will support LSU first and then Arkansas. The niece that lives close by went to Arkansas, but her sister went to LSU.
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Hey Reuben, how do you like living up there? I am looking for a new place for retirement and I was thinking about that area. I am fed up with Phoenix and all that goes with it. A smaller city that has the necessities and other good qualities would be great. My LSU flags might have to wave in the garage... ;) Arkansas is looking good and greatly improved.
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Hey Reuben, how do you like living up there? I am looking for a new place for retirement and I was thinking about that area. I am fed up with Phoenix and all that goes with it. A smaller city that has the necessities and other good qualities would be great. My LSU flags might have to wave in the garage... ;) Arkansas is looking good and greatly improved.
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We love it up here. It actually has 4 seasons where Gulf Coast Alabama only has Summer and Winter. It is filling up fast from people moving from other states for the same reason you mentioned. My LSU sign is proudly posted in the front flower bed. The section we live in is new and our closest neighbor is up the street. Most days we see more deer than people. If you are into biking or hiking this is the place to be. There are trails of all types all over the place.
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We love it up here. It actually has 4 seasons where Gulf Coast Alabama only has Summer and Winter. It is filling up fast from people moving from other states for the same reason you mentioned. My LSU sign is proudly posted in the front flower bed. The section we live in is new and our closest neighbor is up the street. Most days we see more deer than people. If you are into biking or hiking this is the place to be. There are trails of all types all over the place.
That all sounds great, I will need to come visit once I pick my last work day. The deer and forest sound great. A perfect day for me would be standing in a river fly fishing then a cold beer and cooking outdoors.
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If I recall correctly, Mountain Home, AR is the trout fishing capital of the world or something like that. I interviewed for a job there almost 20 years ago with Eaton Corp
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This https://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/places/roaring-river-fish-hatchery is not very far from me being I live about a mile from Missouri. I visited it years ago and if I recall sometimes they release trout and the banks are lined up with fishermen. I live on the West side of BV which is close to a new section of I-49. I can be in the Rogers/Bentonville area in about 30 minutes. I do my Walmart shopping in Jane, MO.
There are five lakes in the Bella Vista area plus Beaver Lake over by Rogers. There is a campground at Beaver Lake just below the dam that people fish in. It is an experience itself when they open a gate or two on it. Just across the border into Oklahoma there are a few big lakes.
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We will see how long they stay. It seems it does not matter what generation, every time the team gets ranked they get get big heads. We will see how this coaching staff handles it.
Fresno St #18
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LSU needs to beat Auburn to get back into the ranking this weekend. They also need to get better before they play Arkansas being I have a little rivalry with my niece.
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LSU needs to get back to playing up to their potential. Fresno and Arkansas have been fun to watch.
I remember how pretty W Arkansas is and I saw all those lakes, that's what got me thinking. Crowds I can do without..
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The cracks started to appear last week and it crumbled last night. This has happened for the last 40 years. The only difference this year is it happened with 2/3's of the season left. Good thing is, they would have to worry about being ranked again this year!
We will see how long they stay. It seems it does not matter what generation, every time the team gets ranked they get get big heads. We will see how this coaching staff handles it.
Fresno St #18
And on a side note, I always thought Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas A&M and Arkansas were over ranked!
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Well, what are the thoughts on this first playoff game? How about the other bowl games so far?
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I don't think anyone was surprised that Bama beat Cinci, but Cinci played offense very poorly. Their defense had some effective moments, but overall the team was not impressive and not playing the type of ball one would expect in a championship game. With that said, I was not that impressed by Bama either. So many penalties. Sheez, that wasn't how it use to be. Sloppy. If they don't get it together better they won't win the championship.
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It seemed like 'Bama did just enough to win the game by focusing on the run game and running time off the clock.
I have watched other bowl games sporadically this year but there seemed to be a lot of back and forth games that went down to the last few possessions which is always nice to see. The Tennessee vs Purdue game was fun to watch as was the Pitt vs Michigan St game.
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Don't get Bent started on Tenn/Perdue. He will tell you Tenn was robbed of that OT TD and I have to agree.
I am giving up on the Georgia/Michigan game. Michigan looks even worse than Cinci and Georgia looks a lot stronger than the Tide.
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2 Bad playoff games!
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I would agree that TN got robbed. If the ref thought that the player was stopped, he should have blown his whistle earlier.
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2 Bad playoff games!
Actually they were two very predictable playoff games.
As someone who grew up in Battle Creek, the home of Kelloggs, I was surprised to see there was a Tony the Tiger bowl game. It was a largely a forgettable game. However it did feature Central Michigan, who stepped in at the last minute to play after their opponent (in an even more forgettable bowl game) had to drop out. It was fun to see them hang on for the win. Go Chips!
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Cincinnati Vs. Michigan would have been a better game.
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Cincinnati Vs. Michigan would have been a better game.
Agree.
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I heard something yesterday about the recent history of these playoff games, but forget the exact information. It was something like each game had been won by 20+ points on average or something ridiculous like that. How bad will it be if they expand the playoff field to 6 or more teams?
The majority of the other bowl games were closer scores. I used to be against so many games, but I am warming up to them. It is nice to have some football on TV during December. It is also nice for senior players who have put forth the effort for what could be 4+ years to get to participate in such an event and have a final game of their college career. It is unfortunate that some had to be cancelled this year. I am also not a fan of players not participating in the game due to the NFL draft. I get the economics of it, but it just doesn't feel right that the college gave the player a showcase and then they quit on the college. Maybe the NCAA/NFL should provide the player an insurance policy so that they play in the game and they are protected economically.
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I too have become accustom to the lower tier bowl games. My alma mater played and won one of the newer bowls, the New Orleans Bowl. I think that they were 13-1 this year. Their only loss was to Texas.
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Rose Bowl has been fun to watch the first half
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Rose Bowl has been fun to watch the first half
I just hate a game with no defense. Just became boring to me. Better games were on earlier.
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Rose Bowl has been fun to watch the first half
I just hate a game with no defense. Just became boring to me. Better games were on earlier.
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Hawkeye is pretty excited about tonight. He is already wearing his Bama kerchief and has been giving Uga a beatdown (I know it is a big Lambchop, but he thinks it looks like a bulldog when it is on its back). I don't have a good feeling about how this game will come out, but rooting for Bama as always. Roll Tide Roll, beat Georgia!!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:
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I am expecting Bama to win. I like watching them play. Not enough to say they are my team, but enough to be happy if they won.
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No preference, just never got interested in College football, or any sport for that matter, except NFL football.