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Title: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 06:15:35 AM
Hi folk,

Some of you will know me from the other place, although I haven't been that prolific in recent months, I've always enjoyed reading.

Started off on a Traeger Lil Tex, with a 3-way controller, many years ago. That controller (and a subsequent replacement) broke and was replaced by a relay which *can* be controlled by an Arduino board. However, when the Arduino is not plugged in, the Traeger just runs on maximum feed, which is mostly how it is used these days, both as a "hot" grill and - with a large pizza stone - as a bread oven.

This became the easy option when I bought my second pellet grill, a WiFi enabled GMG Davy Crockett. This is my go-to grill, for cooking just for myself, or small groups. When I have a dozen or more people around (which happens about once a month), both grills get pressed into action - the Traeger for burgers, chicken and sausages, the GMG for the cleverer stuff.

I also have a charcoal Kamado, which I like, but seldom gets used, as the pellet grills are just so convenient.

As I say, a lot of my cooking is just for me and friends, but once a month I host a Saturday board-game session, and -weather permitting - I do a BBQ lunch for anything from 8 to 16 people.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Kristin Meredith on September 13, 2017, 07:45:42 AM
Good to have you with us Chris.  We hope you will share some pictures of your cooks.  I also remember seeing pictures on Pelletheads of where you live and it was lovely.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: TLK on September 13, 2017, 08:01:59 AM
Welcome from Ohio!
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: pz on September 13, 2017, 08:14:33 AM
Welcome from Idaho Chris  ;)

Your story is much like mine - I too started with a Lil' Tex, but replaced the controller with a Pellet Pro PID. I then purchased a wireless Davy as my next cooker mostly to take on the road in the RV, but found that it does a stellar job when I do a quick cook; throw on a tri-tip for dinner and Bobs you uncle.

Likely much smaller than your Kamado, I have a mini Green Egg, but hardly used it until I found a Korean BBQ topper that perfectly fits on top - I use it kind of like a Korean version of the old fondue parties.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Queball on September 13, 2017, 08:31:05 AM
Welcome aboard from "Merryland", Chris. I believe you once posted pictures of the hamlet you lived in and the great cooking setup you had in the back yard with your GMG Davy Crockett, I believe. It was interesting to see.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Bentley on September 13, 2017, 10:54:53 AM
Glad you made it!  Curious as to different cultures take on certain food. 

When you say sausage, do you all eat it with bun like Hot Dog?  Is it like a Brat here, or more of an indigenous sausage?  I know the Bangor, but as I recall, it is more "Dinner Plate" type sausage, you know, with the mash and peas I believe.  And I have heard of Lincolnshire, but I was lead to believe it was a sage based sausage and I always think of that as the breakfast category...America really has no sausage of its own...maybe a Texas Hot Link...
 

both grills get pressed into action - the Traeger for burgers, chicken and sausages, the GMG for the cleverer stuff.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: LowSlowFoShow on September 13, 2017, 11:33:27 AM
Welcome, glad you found us!
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: pmillen on September 13, 2017, 11:43:03 AM
Welcome aboard, Chris.  I lingered a long time over the photographs of your home area and your residence.  It's good to "see" you.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: GrillinGlen on September 13, 2017, 01:51:25 PM
Welcome from Idaho!
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 02:21:00 PM
When you say sausage, do you all eat it with bun like Hot Dog?  Is it like a Brat here, or more of an indigenous sausage?  I know the Bangor, but as I recall, it is more "Dinner Plate" type sausage, you know, with the mash and peas I believe.  And I have heard of Lincolnshire, but I was lead to believe it was a sage based sausage and I always think of that as the breakfast category...America really has no sausage of its own...maybe a Texas Hot Link...

Regarding Lincolnshire, that is where I live, not necessarily what sausages I cook. For a breakfast sausage, I think I prefer Cumberland (shhhhhh, don't tell the neighbours) or even Lorne (square) sausage, which is what you can get in Scotland.

"Hot Dog" means so many things over here, and probably different things to different people. If you are having a hot dog from a van, or at a cinema, it will almost certainly be a frankfurter in a bun. I went off franks for a long while as most of the common brands over here are dirt cheap and contain mostly mechanically recovered meat, and even chicken (i.e. slurry). However, I have discovered some decent reliable brands that are proper meat, and beef and/or pork.

A hot dog cooked on the average british home BBQ will almost certainly be a variant on a British breakfast sausage, stuck in a bun. It is not quite right, but it is what we understand by the term, and can still be tasty. But to my taste, the British "banger" (sausage) has too much fat for this - it is fantastic on a plate with a breakfast (or - allowed to go cold, sliced and in a sandwich with sauce, it is wonderful), but in a hot-dog bun, it can tend to spray you as you bite into it.  :rotf:

So while I will serve those (and my friends like them), I do try to get Brats or similar when I can. They are not so available in our regular supermarkets as in the US, but some of the better ones stock them. However, it will never stop my friends turning up to my BBQ with a packet of British bangers!

I think the thing most in demand from my friends is pulled pork, which I have gotten quite good at cooking (for a Brit). Over the last couple of years, pulled pork has become a big thing in the shops  - pulled pork sandwiches, potato chips etc; so when I tell first-timers that I am doing pulled pork, I often get a "yeah, ok" response, as if it isn't interesting food. Until they try my pork, and realise that what they sell in the shops is nothing like proper pulled pork!  :)

With pork more or less under my belt (it can always be improved), I want to perfect my brisket. I've done it before, with both good and mediocre results, so I need to work on getting it consistent.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Bentley on September 13, 2017, 02:48:58 PM
Thanks for that knowledge my friend...and now for the Monty Python type responses...

Even after you posted on PH I guess I did not realize that...probably why I failed at Detective school.
Seems like a silly statement, but also the reason I am 25 Stones I guess! (I do know what you mean!)
King of the Who...I understand U.K., I don't get the difference between English and British...but that is for another time.
Let me know when you do, I started in 2002 and am still trying!  They tell me it can be done...

Regarding Lincolnshire, that is where I live...
But to my taste, the British "banger" (sausage) has too much fat for this...
which I have gotten quite good at cooking (for a Brit).
I want to perfect my brisket.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Jcorwin818 on September 13, 2017, 02:49:59 PM
Welcome Chris from Kansas.  Good to see you on the new site.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 02:52:35 PM
While saying hi, I'll give you a little bit more about me. I'm from London originally, but after college lived for about 15 years on the south coast (Brighton, my university town). Then I moved up here, to a more rural town, in the middle of the countryside, but still only 10-15 minutes from the nearest city.

I originally got into BBQ because I am a board-gamer and frequently (at least monthly, and sometimes more) end up hosting a dozen to 20 people for the day, playing games. I am also an amateur musician, and - similarly - often have large number of people over to make music. Because I like to lay on a good lunch, I found I was spending more time in the kitchen and actually missing the fun.

Then I had a couple of trips to the US, the East Coast in 2004, and the West Coast (mainly SF) in 2011. That is when I first encountered proper BBQ (I know, neither are really known BBQ regions, and nowhere near the south, but it was still more authentic than anything I had eaten before).

After the East Coast trip I decided that BBQ might be a simpler way to feed a horde, and would move food preparation and dishing up out of my very small kitchen. To my surprise, it worked. People who had never come up to me in the kitchen and said "Do you want a hand?" were only too willing to do a spell at the grill. The first few years were straight grilling over charcoal, with a Weber Kettle and a Weber clone. I also started doing some low and slow, as well, doing the slow stuff a day or so in advance and reheating while the burgers cooked on the Weber. I still do a lot or pre-cooking.

The Lil Tex arrived in 2010 and was a revelation. Temperature control! Then came my trip to California; by then my American friends knew I was into BBQ, and so each friend I visited ended up taking me to a different BBQ joint (that whole marvellous trip, I mostly fed on BBQ or sushi). I came back with lots of ideas and started work on getting my pulled pork right, first with a Kansas-style sauce which I always associated with BBQ, but later with a South Carolina sauce, which I prefer (but I often revert to Kansas, for variety).

The Kamado arrived in 2011, and the Weber went to live with a friend. Then the Davy Crockett arrived in 2015.

Here's a couple of the pictures of my garden, where we eat

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/jwhr87vqxxfootu/BBQ2.jpg?raw=1)

And here's the kit.

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/0wzlcl9yj2m1pos/BBQ3.jpg?raw=1)
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Bentley on September 13, 2017, 02:57:18 PM
So more questions...is pellet heating available over there?  If so, the infrastructure is there for the pellets.  Is there anyone making them there or the continent?
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 03:10:14 PM
I understand U.K., I don't get the difference between English and British...but that is for another time.

No time like the present. England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are separate countries, but (mostly) under one government. Wales, Scotland and NI all have devolved assemblies that deal with things like health and education and such, but Parliament, in Westminster, is still top dog regarding things like the economy, defense etc.

The confusing bit, I guess is the difference between Britain (and me being British) and UK, so lets break this down.

Great Britain is a purely geographic entity, and is simply the main island we live on - technically it only includes England, Scotland and Wales (and some of the surrounding little islands), it does not include Northern Ireland.

The British Isles is another geographic entity, being a group of islands including Great Britain (i.e. England, Scotland and Wales), the whole of Ireland (which includes both Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic), and also little islands like the Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey.

So being English, I am also British, as England is part of Great Britain.

The UK stands for (deep breath) "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". It is a political entity comprising of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Because it is so awkward to say "I'm a UKian" or "I am a citizen of the UK", we all tend to muddy the geographical with the political and say "I'm British", or "I am a British citizen". Which tends to get up the nose of some people from Northern Ireland (with good cause) as they are UK citizens, but do not consider themselves "British", and lord help anyone who calls them that.

I bet you are still confused!  ;D
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: riverrat49 on September 13, 2017, 03:31:38 PM
Welcome to the Forum Chris_M, glad to see you make the trip here... (RAF Alconbury 84-88)
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
So more questions...is pellet heating available over there?  If so, the infrastructure is there for the pellets.  Is there anyone making them there or the continent?

I'm loving this. Pellet heating is available over here, but I am not sure it is as big as in the US. It is becoming a more common solution for communities not on mains gas, where previously they would have had gas delivered. It is also becoming more popular because of the perceived green factor (yes, you're burning wood, but more wood is being planted to replace it), and economies.

So pellets are being made in the UK, and also come across from Europe (although that may all change!  ??? ).

But it hasn't crossed over to food-grade pellets here, I don't think. Over the past few years, I have come across a couple of local sources of pellets for grills, but then they seemed to disappear.

So I buy my pellets from the American BBQ Company, who sell grills from Cookshack/Fast Eddy's and GMG. On the pellet front, they sell Cookshack, GMG and Lumber Jack, and a reasonable range, too. The other company I used to deal with is Liverpool Wood Pellets, who are one of the major suppliers of heating pellets over here. They used to import Lil Devils, which I quite liked and were relatively cheap. But they stopped selling them a while back.

I am also aware of a company that represents Lousiana Grills and stock their range of pellets. But they don't provide for any way to buy them online, it appears to be a "contact us for sales". If a company doesn't make it easy to do business with them, I tend not to get around to it.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 03:37:23 PM
Welcome to the Forum Chris_M, glad to see you make the trip here... (RAF Alconbury 84-88)

Hi, almost-neighbour.

You just reminded me of an even earlier experience of American BBQ that impressed me. Going back a couple of decades, I had a girlfriend who was really into airshows. Of course, where there were American airmen, there were usually cookouts, and while she nerded over the hardware, I got heavily into the food.  That was probably my first Wurst! ;D
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: riverrat49 on September 13, 2017, 03:50:54 PM
Very first BBQ I ever built myself was a brick one, We bought our materials from the Texas DIY shop, somewhere around here I've still got their BBQ Book  :cool:

Welcome to the Forum Chris_M, glad to see you make the trip here... (RAF Alconbury 84-88)

Hi, almost-neighbour.

You just reminded me of an even earlier experience of American BBQ that impressed me. Going back a couple of decades, I had a girlfriend who was really into airshows. Of course, where there were American airmen, there were usually cookouts, and while she nerded over the hardware, I got heavily into the food.  That was probably my first Wurst! ;D
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: GrillinGlen on September 13, 2017, 04:17:25 PM
You mentioned the southern coast, my oldest son and his spouse live in Bournemouth (sp?) Been there a couple years, his spouse works for Xerox which is headquartered there.  They really like it there, I would like to visit one day
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 04:25:58 PM
You mentioned the southern coast, my oldest son and his spouse live in Bournemouth (sp?) Been there a couple years, his spouse works for Xerox which is headquartered there.  They really like it there, I would like to visit one day

Same coast, Bournemouth is a couple of hours drive from Brighton, not far at all. Brighton is a bit active, known as a kind of "London by the Sea". Bournemouth is a bit more sedate.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Bentley on September 13, 2017, 04:28:41 PM
I confused UK with Commonwealth at the time, so I am glad I did not try and elaborate on that! And I will try and let it go with this...My fathers family is of Welsh decent...But is a Scot going to call himself a Brit?
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 05:45:13 PM
I confused UK with Commonwealth at the time, so I am glad I did not try and elaborate on that! And I will try and let it go with this...My fathers family is of Welsh decent...But is a Scot going to call himself a Brit?

I'd have to ask friends. :)

I'd be tempted to ask "Would that be a lowlands Scot, or a highlands Scot?"
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 13, 2017, 05:49:36 PM
There used to be a running gag about Andy Murray, the tennis player.

Whenever he got knocked out of a contest, the (English) media would report it along the lines of "The Scots player was knocked out in the semi final of the tournament."

When he was successful, it would be "British tennis star, Andy Murray ... "

However, a lingistics student actually made this the subject of his dissertation, and reached the conclusion that Scottish newspapers referred to Murray as Scottish twice as frequently as they referred to him as British; In the English national press, broadsheets (quality press) tended to refer to Murray as Scottish, while the tabloids called him British.

So shame it wasn't true, but it was a good joke.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Quadman750 on September 13, 2017, 06:14:12 PM
Welcome to the forum Chris, you have a great setup
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: triplebq on September 13, 2017, 08:31:46 PM
Welcome to the group
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: InThePitBBQ on September 19, 2017, 08:33:19 AM
Hi Chris, welcome from Indiana!
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: tommo666 on September 19, 2017, 02:03:29 PM
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the link, welcome from Essex :)
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: ZCZ on September 19, 2017, 03:26:22 PM
Greetings from Minnesota, USA!

I had the pleasure of studying in Oxford one quarter back in 1975 as part of my college's foreign studies program.  A great experience as you might expect.  Got to see lots of the surrounding area as well.

Welcome friend!

Z
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Jcorwin818 on September 19, 2017, 04:55:33 PM
Greetings from Kansas City Chris and welcome back.  Glad you found us and looking forward to your input.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Chris__M on September 19, 2017, 07:07:13 PM
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the link, welcome from Essex :)

Heh. I was born in Romford and brought up in Chingford.

Welcome!
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: Jcorwin818 on September 19, 2017, 07:31:17 PM
Chris if you get back to the States you have to come to KC.  We can spend days going around town and eating some very good BBQ.
Title: Re: Greetings from England
Post by: tommo666 on September 20, 2017, 12:06:26 PM
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the link, welcome from Essex :)

Heh. I was born in Romford and brought up in Chingford.

Welcome!

I'm in Chelmsford, i saw your post on bbqs and came here..