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Recipe Section => Wild Game => Topic started by: CaptJerry on September 13, 2017, 07:49:16 PM
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I gave up. Can't get them tender, or even edible, with the exception, of the loin I can make it semi palatable.
Only other way is ground and make an imitation Jimmy Deans sausage.
Shoulders, hams, WAY to dry and stringy. Disgusting.
I'm open for suggestions.....
Coyotes won't eat em. Buzzards barely will. But will continue to killem and stackem.
Nasty critters but their domestic cousins sure are tasty.
If I have offended any PETA members please pm me so I can arrange for you to release the next one I trap
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This is meant in all sincerity -- Andrew Zimmern has often shown wild hog hunts and kills and then they butcher and eat the meat. I assume that is the same as wild swine. Is he just lying about the stuff being good to eat or does the wild swine vary from region to region?
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I'm sure it can vary greatly region to region, as well as gender and age and what they eat will effect taste.
I've never had wild hog, but would like to try it sometime.
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I always mess this up. Lets post again and see if I am right? Domestic pig (Hog), we all know, end of story.
Wild Swine and Wild Boar I there a difference? You say...well I just thought a boar was a male hog? I am told there are 10 species of pig. So the pig is a domesticated wild boar (male).
So a pig is any domesticated swine under 125lbs, hog is same thing but over 125lbs and boar or wild boar is a wild pig or hog depending on weigh and sex.
So I have been no help on the original question...I have been told by half a dozen folks that if I ever have wild boar I will never want to go back to regular swine. I now question those people. And I have to believe diet has a great deal of influence on taste of meat!
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I'm in the same boat with CaptJerry. I tried several different ways to prepare wild swine several years ago. It was all awful, just too gamey. I did have some success with having a moist cook, but not flavor.
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Boar is a male. Sow is female.
Around here, you hear them called wild pigs or wild hogs, wild boar.
By choosing swine, I covered all the nasty, destructive critters without being discriminating :pig:
Extremely lean meat. Not enough meat on the ribs to bother with like a deer.
I've done them low and slow, hot and fast, always injected and always wind up with :puke:
I've done young ones, old ones, males, females, spotted ones, solid colored ones, shot ones, trapped ones, smart ones and dumb ones.
As far as Andrew Z. I have a pair of sneakers I'm about to retire I'm sure he would find quite tasty ;)
Reason behind this question is it's almost fall. Time to be spending more time in the woods and my fragile culinary ego can't endure
another failure.
Here is a prime example of what I thought was the perfect sized porker which was a epic failure. I would guess HER at 130-150 lbs.
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This is meant in all sincerity -- Andrew Zimmern has often shown wild hog hunts and kills and then they butcher and eat the meat. I assume that is the same as wild swine. Is he just lying about the stuff being good to eat or does the wild swine vary from region to region?
Good question. I'm going to set aside my opinion of Andrew Z and give this a minutes thought.
I hear others talking about how good wild swine is all the time. Good in regards to food is so subjective.
Reckon whenever I hear someone claiming to know what their doing cooking these beasts I must make myself available
to sample. Providing it's prepared with fire and not in a crock pot.
As far as region goes, this has merit to their food source.
Wild pigs are omnivores. Basic diet of my local area is acorns, grubs, bugs.
I would imagine if they had access to a corn or soybean field on a regular basis they may be tasty.
Smell is what wild pigs rely on to get by, which when you think of it is quite amazing considering how bad they smell.
How can they smell anything else?
We bait with corn and jello. Raspberry jello works best. No I'm not yanking anyones chain here. They love the smell of jello.
And no, you do not have to prepare the jello. Just dump a box with your corn and be prepared to have a root you can bury a
small SUV in.
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Thanks for the info. I watch these shows and often think "How can all this stuff be so wonderful?" But I suppose he could be getting hold of some wild boar that are in more of a farming area and eating more corn. Or he could just be fibbing. Andrew really lost my interest on one show where he refused to eat SPAM saying it was the worst stuff around. Ok, I like SPAM and some don't, but he showed a food snobbery and ignorance of the product that he claims he is above. I feel the same way about Guy Fieri. I think I have gone to 4 or 5 places he has visited and thought were great and I was disappointed in every one.
And thanks for hunting and killing those wild swine even though you can't eat it. They are a really harmful to farmers and a hazard to people and you are doing the community a great service.
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While the pigs we know came from true wild boar, they are much different.
Wild boar(male or female) shouldn't be confused with wild feral hogs. Many states have a huge problem with wild feral hogs. These are basically the same pig we get from the supermarket, just wild.
Now from what I understand, at least from reading and talking to a few who have hunted both, wild boar is good for sausage. Wild feral hogs, are better for chops, roasts ECT.
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I don't want to get close to any of the swine permutations, even the little Peccary. Once was enough. It must have weighed 400 lbs. and was of bad disposition. They should be shot from long range.
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I don't want to get close to any of the swine permutations, even the little Peccary. Once was enough. It must have weighed 400 lbs. and was of bad disposition. They should be shot from long range.
With a large caliber weapon.
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A friend makes sausage out of them, he has to add fat (it's okay I guess?). My brother-in-law traps them and then fattens them up to get some somewhat decent meat. (That's subject to his opinion). Me, Shoot em and Forget em. Same thing with a javelina, nothing but flea infested PEST, all of them. :)
Just my :2cents:
mk
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I killed a 130 pound boar and quartered it out and packed it into my brand new shiny RTIC cooler two years ago, by the time I made the 500 mile drive from the mountain valley back home it left a stank on that cooler no amount of bleach or power washing would remove.
The meat was frightful, no matter the cut or how I prepared it both the odor and taste were terrible my GSD's even gave it a delayed sniffing session before the taste test.
~Never again.
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The meat was frightful, no matter the cut or how I prepared it both the odor and taste were terrible my GSD's even gave it a delayed sniffing session before the taste test.
GSDs? Shorthairs?
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The meat was frightful, no matter the cut or how I prepared it both the odor and taste were terrible my GSD's even gave it a delayed sniffing session before the taste test.
GSDs? Shorthairs?
Shepherds, the German variety ;D
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Ok, non-hunter question here: if you kill an animal, like a feral hog, are you allowed to simply leave it where it lays to be eaten by creatures or rot? Around here, we have so many turkey vultures that anything dead does not make it long.
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I killed a 130 pound boar and quartered it out and packed it into my brand new shiny RTIC cooler two years ago, by the time I made the 500 mile drive from the mountain valley back home it left a stank on that cooler no amount of bleach or power washing would remove.
The meat was frightful, no matter the cut or how I prepared it both the odor and taste were terrible my GSD's even gave it a delayed sniffing session before the taste test.
~Never again.
Does it depend on what they eat
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Ok, non-hunter question here: if you kill an animal, like a feral hog, are you allowed to simply leave it where it lays to be eaten by creatures or rot? Around here, we have so many turkey vultures that anything dead does not make it long.
It varies, state to state on how feral hogs are classified under fish and game statute.
For an example, killing and leaving behind sanctioned game animals that require a hunter to attain a license for seasonal harvest such as deer or migratory birds would fall under statutes of wanton waste by willfully letting them lie without retrieving for consumption. While not all game animals can be retrieved in all cases it is incumbent on the hunter to make every effort to do so.
Say you shoot a deer, and it manages to cross a posted private property line and you consult the owner for permission to gain access to the property and the owners decline access, you then would have no further obligation to retrieve as that would constitute an act of willful trespass.
In the cases of vermin, feral hogs and some predators states can classify them as essentially a nuisance animal requiring no license or relaxed oversight for harvesting. I own quite a bit of property in Alabama, although the state classifies them as a game animal I can hunt them any day of the year on my property without a game license with no "harvest restrictions" essentially allowing you to do as you wish with the animal and take as many as you want.
Texas has similar laws for land owners, and non land owners simply need to have a hunting license in their possession. The main difference is in how states classify animals for the purposes of collecting licence fee's. Coveted game such as deer belong to the state, and destructive undesirable animals such as feral hogs belong to the land owners.
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Virginia is like this, no need for license, no seasonal restrictions. So I can go kill Bambi or for that matter her mom or dad, anytime I want!
I own quite a bit of property in Alabama, although the state classifies them as a game animal I can hunt them any day of the year on my property without a game license with no "harvest restrictions" essentially allowing you to do as you wish with the animal and take as many as you want.
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Virginia is like this, no need for license, no seasonal restrictions. So I can go kill Bambi or for that matter her mom or dad, anytime I want!
I own quite a bit of property in Alabama, although the state classifies them as a game animal I can hunt them any day of the year on my property without a game license with no "harvest restrictions" essentially allowing you to do as you wish with the animal and take as many as you want.
Seriously? How dare Virginia not tow the line and assign ownership of deer to the state and refuse to levy fee's on hunters to take them in short windows of closed seasons!
Politically unconscionable if you ask me ;)
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I think Bent means for property owners. We can sit on the porch and shoot them as they cross our fields at any time, but those big city folks need to get a license and hunt in season.
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I think Bent means for property owners. We can sit on the porch and shoot them as they cross our fields at any time, but those big city folks need to get a license and hunt in season.
Unless you're a Senator or Congressman, they don't have to follow the laws.LOL
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The USDA has spent considerable time and effort to rid our domestic pork of parasites and diseases over the last 50 years.
Don't wild hogs have the parasites that have been eliminated from domestic pork? I assume that the wild hogs still are a carrier for them.
If this is true, how much of a concern is it? I know cooking the pork thoroughly would kill the parasites, but it still seems risky.
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The USDA has spent considerable time and effort to rid our domestic pork of parasites and diseases over the last 50 years.
Don't wild hogs have the parasites that have been eliminated from domestic pork? I assume that the wild hogs still are a carrier for them.
If this is true, how much of a concern is it? I know cooking the pork thoroughly would kill the parasites, but it still seems risky.
As long as cooked and handled properly no worries.
I'm more concerned over whats in commercial food I purchase. Antibiotics, hormones, etc.
This is as organic as it gets.
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This is as organic as it gets.
I don't pay attention to the organic/inorganic debate, but your statement caused me to think, "Are they still 100% organic if they're eating genetically modified or pesticide sprayed crops?"
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Define 100% organic and I will tell you...
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GMOs do not fit within the definition of organic and animals that eat GMO foods are not allowed to be called organic. But there are pesticides which are considered organic and can be used in organic farming.
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Define 100% organic and I will tell you...
Beats me. That's why I asked. Are they still, "[A]s organic as it gets"?
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GMOs do not fit within the definition of organic and animals that eat GMO foods are not allowed to be called organic. But there are pesticides which are considered organic and can be used in organic farming.
Ah, thanks, Kristin. So a hog that is running around loose can't be automatically considered organic because we don't know what it's been eating. Same must be true of all wild game; deer, rabbits, quail, pheasants...
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Italians do great things with wild boar. Maybe look there.
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Define 100% organic and I will tell you...
Beats me. That's why I asked. Are they still, "[A]s organic as it gets"?
Around these parts their primary diet is acorns and bugs.
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Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and just browsed this topic. From experience, I'd like to add some thoughts.
First of all, any game meat is subject to prep and general meat quality. For example, Aged angus beef is always gonna be better quality than a dairy cow you knocked in the head, cut the straps out and took them straight to the grill. Just like beef, different hogs are gonna grade out a better cut.
Wild feral pigs, in general, are not gonna provide adequate marble, thus they are less desirable quality in general.
Secondly, if you are going to eat wild feral pigs, it's essential to select a desirable specimen for your intended purpose. A small 80ish lb hog is gonna be ideal in the fall. Generally speaking again, if killed this time of year, they are fat on acorns. You'll need a sow or a boat that doesn't stink. Any hog over this is gonna be suspect as a higher rate of failure to quality table fare. Also, you got to clean and take care of your meat immediately after the kill. This means aging in a cooler or ice chest.
You can catch larger hogs and eat them. Usually they need to be fed out for 8 weeks on grain. If it's a boar, you need to bar them (same as steer in beef). Most bigger hogs are better to be fattened and then used to make smoked sausage.
Hope these adds help someone. I'm by no means an expert but the above are the thought process I use pertaining to wild pork.