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Title: Make Sausage Video...
Post by: Bentley on August 10, 2019, 09:22:27 PM
This really does not meet the guidelines for this area, I realize it, but I am going to put it in here so it is easier to find.  I hope it will encourage others to make some, it is a simple process.  Time consuming, but it is not like doing differential equations...

Like I say in the video, I have no idea what "Good" Andouille sausage would taste like.  To me, this could just be a mild, everyday sausage, even something one might like in a bun, so I really doubt it is very Cajun!  It is kind of what I have been looking for in a Breakfast Sausage!  Will see what 12 hours of melding spices, air drying and then smoking does to the flavor.  I was very surprised, if I had not known I had put liquid smoke in it, not sure I would have been able to pick it out.

How to Make Sausage... (https://youtu.be/QaF2ICPfAa0)
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Post by: pmillen on August 11, 2019, 10:13:46 AM
Interesting and informative.  It looks fairly easy.  I'll watch for your video on smoking it in a pellet pit.
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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 10:20:40 AM
Pretty much just as easy.  I don't post this to belittle or denigrate a Manufacture, but...I was going to warm smoke it in the Memphis Pro but it wont start this morning.  I simply do not want to go get the Daniel Boone like I should, since it will get down to 150°.  So I fired up the Blaz'n Smoker and will put 90 minutes of cold smoke on it. 

Your post has made me want to get motivated to go get the DB and do it right.

 


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Post by: yorkdude on August 11, 2019, 10:25:30 AM
Quick question, does it make a big difference with the casings? I did not watch all of your video yet but I am not going to Kansas City today. I can however get LEM casings real close.
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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 10:32:44 AM
I am going to assume the LEM are collagen?  Only thing I have ever made with them are snack sticks.  I would think they would be fine.  This is conjecture, the only issue I could see with them might be snap...but, they might enhance that, so I say do it!
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Post by: yorkdude on August 11, 2019, 10:39:55 AM
Yes as far as I know collagen. Going to try.
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Post by: dogbreath on August 11, 2019, 11:24:30 AM
As a Papa Tom traveling Sausage Class graduate, I'll chime in some.

First, be OCD about cleanliness. I use a bleach mixture over all the counters before starting, and try to work quick, especially for fresh sausages with no nitrites.

To get the most even texture, grind your meat partially frozen so the blades will cut rather than tear and your chunk size will be consistent. I cut my meat to grinder size, about an inch by inch with length not important, partially freeze, grind into the mixer, add the salt/spices, mix until sticky, add ice water or wine as appropriate to get a stuff-able consistency (too thick is hard to push out of a stuffer), and proceed. Fry up a bit before stuffing to see if you need more of anything.

Collagen casings are certainly easier to prep than hosing out natural casings. They have an "angled' accordion to them, and I find them easier to control with the "arrowhead" or inner part pointed towards the stuffer. They need a finger pinch where they will be linked off because they won't stretch like naturals when you link them, they can tear. Some have luck twisting, I don't, so I tie.

Collagen will let smoke into the meat. I use natural mostly, but after the smoke and cool you can remove the collagen casings if you decide you don't like the texture. If you mix your sausage long enough for it to get sticky/clingy (see Bentley's mixer pix) (the salt helps extract the proteins that give the sausage its sticky texture and make it hold together), it should remain solid after casing removal. Hot dogs are made this way and that's why they're so "shiny". I've sometimes had the collagen casings want to stick and I don't know why so can't tell how to prevent it. It may be a lack of fat that lubricates.

The Hermann Wurst House master sausage maker (Hermann MO--try his stuff if you get the chance to go by there) told me that to get the snap the natural casings need to be dry, so they need to hang or be turned to get dry all over before smoking. This is why we use nitrite, so bad bugs don't grow during this time. Then after smoking, the ice water plunge will quickly cool it all and help the snap. This also takes the sausage down below the bug growth zone quickly so you can refrigerate/freeze.

Recipes: Len Poli has an extensive list of them so google Len Poli (removed the link, don't want anybody mad).

Anyone near Denton, TX is welcome to borrow equipment to try. I have a LEM grinder, stuffers, mixer etc. Not doing it nearly as much as I did in my younger years, but it still makes for a satisfying day.

Dan
Title: Re: Make Sausage Video...
Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 11:43:45 AM
Was able to get the Memphis Pro to start, so will see what a combination of cold and warm smoke does.  Will pretty much finish it to 130° where the fat will start rendering.  I might go as high as the 150° suggested, will play that by ear, but since it is going into Gumbo, will be cooked in it and I would rather have the fat melt in that pot then in a pit.

Gonna leave Len's website, but I have been told he does not like it used.  Makes no sense to me, but that is what I hear.  Will see if we get any push back.
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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 11:49:05 AM
I thought I showed that in the video, but I guess it did not come across very well!


To get the most even texture, grind your meat partially frozen so the blades will cut rather than tear and your chunk size will be consistent. I cut my meat to grinder size, about an inch by inch with length not important, partially freeze, grind into the mixer...
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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 12:37:04 PM
I love the way the color changes when you smoke sausage.  IT is about 110°, the fat is staying in the links, so please with that.

After watching the video for the 2nd time, I realize I did not convey several things I was trying to get across.  I do like the cubed the meat and fat, then add ingredients and chill and marinate.  It seems to mix the spices into the meat better to me.  I have always ground and added the seasoning after the fact and I will change that.  Also, I wanted to grind and pipe at the same time, but the fat was not uniform and I was afraid that it would not be a consistent product piped into the casing.

What I wish is...that I could go buy some Andouille to see what it should really taste like.


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Post by: hughver on August 11, 2019, 01:12:34 PM
What I wish is...that I could go buy some Andouille to see what it should really taste like.

I'm not sure about Mayberry, but most super markets have one or two brands of Andouille, I prefer Johnsonville.
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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 01:16:12 PM
You hail or spent time in the Bayou right?  I just assume it was like saying a regular McDonalds hamburger was top of the list...Is Johnsonville pretty traditional?


What I wish is...that I could go buy some Andouille to see what it should really taste like.

I'm not sure about Mayberry, but most super markets have one or two brands of Andouille, I prefer Johnsonville.
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Post by: hughver on August 11, 2019, 01:48:51 PM
No, not really, but the closest that I've found.
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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 02:13:33 PM
Will get some tomorrow, at least it will give me an idea.  The little bit I cooked up yesterday tasted great, and since I dont know what it should taste like I guess these comments ring hollow.  But looking at stuff on line, theirs looks like ham stuffed in a hog casing!
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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 02:30:08 PM
Pulled at 135°, bloomed and resting before I fry a little up and see!


(https://i.imgur.com/H8US5RPh.jpg)
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Post by: Bar-B-Lew on August 11, 2019, 02:33:01 PM
show us a cross section of that before and after you fry it up
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Post by: yorkdude on August 11, 2019, 02:35:20 PM
I am by no means versed in this but the andouille sausage I have bought, a few years ago traveling through Louisiana was almost mealy? Meaning soft texture. It was generally slightly strong flavor but subtle, if that makes any sense. I took a few coolers and loaded up with sausage, shrimp and mud bugs. I bought lots of different things from several spots, each one claimed to be the “1”. Lots of awesome scenery and lots of scary places but was an awesome trip. They all claimed to make the best “come back dip”. They say it’s meant to have you come back. Was awesome and the real Cajun folks will mesmerize you as they speak.


Title: Re: Make Sausage Video...
Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 02:44:57 PM
Will do.  Lets see how close mine is to some off the internet!

show us a cross section of that before and after you fry it up

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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 03:02:46 PM
I find it funny, it tastes nothing like the small amount I fried yesterday, almost disappointed.  Kristin liked it.  Not sure what happened to the casing.  Has snap, but it is quite unappealing, way to chewy.  Maybe to long in smoke, or the bloom, which I have never liked and will probably drop from my repertoire!

I hate it when every thing goes right except one thing!

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Post by: Bentley on August 11, 2019, 03:03:37 PM
The End.  Now it is time to see some of your stories!
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Post by: Bar-B-Lew on August 11, 2019, 03:12:23 PM
almost looks like kielbasa
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Post by: hughver on August 11, 2019, 07:45:26 PM
Will get some tomorrow, at least it will give me an idea.  The little bit I cooked up yesterday tasted great, and since I dont know what it should taste like I guess these comments ring hollow.  But looking at stuff on line, theirs looks like ham stuffed in a hog casing!

The most obvious difference is pepper. IMO the packaged version is has much less heat.