Post by: Smeauxkin on August 02, 2020, 08:33:10 AM
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Post by: BigDave83 on August 02, 2020, 03:09:30 PM
Post by: Smeauxkin on August 02, 2020, 03:28:50 PM
It was some type of lawsuit they lost. They were trying to trademark their name rec tec grills I think. The issue was that there is and has been for quite a while a TEC Infrared Grill. The owners of TEC did not want rec tec using that spelling as it may cause confusion.That's about right.
https://youtu.be/R9Y7BndHv2c
This came through my feed today. Good to see it's just a name change. That is silly about the lawsuit though.
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Post by: Bar-B-Lew on August 02, 2020, 03:44:03 PM
Post by: BigDave83 on August 02, 2020, 04:13:15 PM
It was some type of lawsuit they lost. They were trying to trademark their name rec tec grills I think. The issue was that there is and has been for quite a while a TEC Infrared Grill. The owners of TEC did not want rec tec using that spelling as it may cause confusion.That's about right.
https://youtu.be/R9Y7BndHv2c
This came through my feed today. Good to see it's just a name change. That is silly about the lawsuit though.
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I am not sure what was silly about it. Tec Infrared has been around for quite a while, Rec Tec had to have known the name was out there. with the build quality between the 2, I can completely understand why the company that owns Tec Infrared would not want Rec tec using a name similar.
Post by: pmillen on August 02, 2020, 04:35:35 PM
will become
Pellet Fan > Pit Talk -- Comments and Questions Regarding These Pellet Pits > recteq.
Or maybe
Pellet Fan > Pit Talk -- Comments and Questions Regarding These Pellet Pits >
I notice that their web site text has the name as one word, all lower case.
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on August 02, 2020, 05:28:23 PM
Post by: Bentley on August 02, 2020, 05:29:16 PM
Post by: Kristin Meredith on August 02, 2020, 05:42:46 PM
Post by: GREG-B on August 02, 2020, 06:31:30 PM
Post by: Smeauxkin on August 02, 2020, 07:05:01 PM
It's silly because it is. Can companies start suing each other because they both use letters to spell their names? Should GMC sue PMC? Char-broil sues Broilmaster? It's stupid but that's the direction we're headed.It was some type of lawsuit they lost. They were trying to trademark their name rec tec grills I think. The issue was that there is and has been for quite a while a TEC Infrared Grill. The owners of TEC did not want rec tec using that spelling as it may cause confusion.That's about right.
https://youtu.be/R9Y7BndHv2c
This came through my feed today. Good to see it's just a name change. That is silly about the lawsuit though.
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I am not sure what was silly about it. Tec Infrared has been around for quite a while, Rec Tec had to have known the name was out there. with the build quality between the 2, I can completely understand why the company that owns Tec Infrared would not want Rec tec using a name similar.
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Post by: Bar-B-Lew on August 02, 2020, 07:54:43 PM
It's silly because it is. Can companies start suing each other because they both use letters to spell their names? Should GMC sue PMC? Char-broil sues Broilmaster? It's stupid but that's the direction we're headed.It was some type of lawsuit they lost. They were trying to trademark their name rec tec grills I think. The issue was that there is and has been for quite a while a TEC Infrared Grill. The owners of TEC did not want rec tec using that spelling as it may cause confusion.That's about right.
https://youtu.be/R9Y7BndHv2c
This came through my feed today. Good to see it's just a name change. That is silly about the lawsuit though.
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I am not sure what was silly about it. Tec Infrared has been around for quite a while, Rec Tec had to have known the name was out there. with the build quality between the 2, I can completely understand why the company that owns Tec Infrared would not want Rec tec using a name similar.
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Been that way for years due to trademark laws. If you don't attempt to protect your trademark, you run the risk of losing it.
Post by: BigDave83 on August 02, 2020, 09:30:25 PM
Post by: Bentley on August 02, 2020, 09:55:56 PM
Post by: okie smokie on August 03, 2020, 07:24:58 PM
But it wasn't GMC vs PMC it was TEC vs REC TEC and the RT guys would get all upset if you didn't use all caps, even correct people. Honestly seeing a lot of misinformation rec tec put out there, I would bet that the name was like that because of the TEC grill.Doubt that. For what purpose? recteq is remarkably successful on their own and would not have to depend on TEC for recognition. (I personally have never heard about TEC Infrared) I know many don't like their biased testimonials, and I personally have put them to task on it (personal communications), but in the long run, who cares??? Have you seen the giant warehouse they now have? Considering that they don't have dealers, and sell factory direct that is amazing. And they do have the best service in the industry. Four year and 6 years warranty, and one call results in prompt attention. :2cents:
Post by: BigDave83 on August 03, 2020, 10:11:45 PM
This right here is the reason I would never buy another one, If I were buying today, maybe it is just how my mind works but if I were reading and just about every owner spouting off about how great the customer service is, I would run the other way as i would not think every customer should know how great it is. That would tell me there are far more issues than all of those 4 and 5 star reviews. I had one, I used customer service, we never did get it to do what they told me it would when I bought it. After replacing parts and them having me beat on it with a hammer and block of wood and run test after test and getting no where and sending in pictures, I gave up, sadly it was after my 30 days. I talked to Ray one time, not sure why he even answered the phone, he told me he really didn't know much about the mechanics and technical trouble shooting and he would have Ron call me. When I finally wen to sell it after it sitting and being used maybe 6 times in 2 years I tried to fire it up and no go. I called and talked to someone and old him what was going on and i was selling it and wanted t to work he asked why I was selling, I said I needed a grill and they told me it would grill, it couldn't do high temps. His reply was yea they really are not made for high temp cooking.
Doubt that. For what purpose? recteq is remarkably successful on their own and would not have to depend on TEC for recognition. (I personally have never heard about TEC Infrared) I know many don't like their biased testimonials, and I personally have put them to task on it (personal communications), but in the long run, who cares??? Have you seen the giant warehouse they now have? Considering that they don't have dealers, and sell factory direct that is amazing. And they do have the best service in the industry. Four year and 6 years warranty, and one call results in prompt attention. :2cents:
Post by: okie smokie on August 03, 2020, 11:55:04 PM
Post by: lil moose on August 04, 2020, 08:26:02 AM
Anyway to my point...
I have owned a RT680 for 5 years and yes there are a few paint issues (nothing bad) and a little rust here and there BUT it WORKS!
I never had any issues of it not firing up or holding temp. It just works and does it well
MAK in my opinion is the BEST pellet grill on the market and they have issues. Just saying nothing is perfect
I'm just surprised MAC tools has not sued them for the name MAK or Mack trucks have not said something
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Post by: Bar-B-Lew on August 04, 2020, 08:39:09 AM
Rec-Tec or RecTeq (Which ever you choose) I myself would have gone with Rec-Teck but I'm sure some company would sue for that as well
Anyway to my point...
I have owned a RT680 for 5 years and yes there are a few paint issues (nothing bad) and a little rust here and there BUT it WORKS!
I never had any issues of it not firing up or holding temp. It just works and does it well
MAK in my opinion is the BEST pellet grill on the market and they have issues. Just saying nothing is perfect
I'm just surprised MAC tools has not sued them for the name MAK or Mack trucks have not said something
OK sitting down now
MAK and MAC are not in the same line of business so a trademark lawsuit would be a waste of eithers money. TEC Infared and REC TEC are in a very similar line of business which could cause confusion to a consumer. I know a little bit about trademark law because I had to participate in an lawsuit filed out of state on a Friday afternoon with a requirement to be at a mediation hearing on Monday morning. I was brought up to speed very quickly by our lawyers in preparation for the 8 hour mediation negotiations. It was funny during the opening statements when we told the party that sued us that we don't need the name and are OK giving it up. The look on the guys face was incredible. It still cost us a lot of money even though we had been using the name for 10+ years and wasted a lot of my time and of others attempting to determine a new name and the costs associated with removing the old name.
Post by: lil moose on August 04, 2020, 09:31:38 AM
I agree BUT neither were these and there was law suits over a name just saying This country has gone off the tracksRec-Tec or RecTeq (Which ever you choose) I myself would have gone with Rec-Teck but I'm sure some company would sue for that as well
Anyway to my point...
I have owned a RT680 for 5 years and yes there are a few paint issues (nothing bad) and a little rust here and there BUT it WORKS!
I never had any issues of it not firing up or holding temp. It just works and does it well
MAK in my opinion is the BEST pellet grill on the market and they have issues. Just saying nothing is perfect
I'm just surprised MAC tools has not sued them for the name MAK or Mack trucks have not said something
OK sitting down now
MAK and MAC are not in the same line of business so a trademark lawsuit would be a waste of eithers money. TEC Infared and REC TEC are in a very similar line of business which could cause confusion to a consumer. I know a little bit about trademark law because I had to participate in an lawsuit filed out of state on a Friday afternoon with a requirement to be at a mediation hearing on Monday morning. I was brought up to speed very quickly by our lawyers in preparation for the 8 hour mediation negotiations. It was funny during the opening statements when we told the party that sued us that we don't need the name and are OK giving it up. The look on the guys face was incredible. It still cost us a lot of money even though we had been using the name for 10+ years and wasted a lot of my time and of others attempting to determine a new name and the costs associated with removing the old name.
https://www.universalhub.com/2015/toyota-sees-unfair-lexus-nexis-somerville-sues
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1036234
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Post by: Bar-B-Lew on August 04, 2020, 09:50:11 AM
Post by: pmillen on August 04, 2020, 10:13:48 AM
If you show lack of attempt to protect your trademark, you run the risk of losing it.
Exactly. If TEC doesn't sue, over a period of years they might lose the ability to protect their trademarked name when it’s more important.
It's silly because it is. Can companies start suing each other because they both use letters to spell their names? Should GMC sue PMC? Char-broil sues Broilmaster? It's stupid but that's the direction we're headed.
So, if I started marketing GMC Guitars you wouldn't think that there's a possibility that I'm trying to capitalize on a successful company’s name?
Post by: lil moose on August 04, 2020, 10:38:34 AM
Every time I see a GNC add my first thought is GMC
I'll end it with this one :)
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on August 04, 2020, 11:26:05 AM
I agree with names and trade marks but you got to ask why this was never contested??
Every time I see a GNC add my first thought is GMC
I'll end it with this one :)
GNC file for bankruptcy. I suspect they will be out of business shortly ;)
Post by: Bentley on August 04, 2020, 12:44:12 PM
Post by: Smeauxkin on August 04, 2020, 01:49:23 PM
I'd never buy a GMC guitar. It would never hold a tune.If you show lack of attempt to protect your trademark, you run the risk of losing it.
Exactly. If TEC doesn't sue, over a period of years they might lose the ability to protect their trademarked name when it’s more important.It's silly because it is. Can companies start suing each other because they both use letters to spell their names? Should GMC sue PMC? Char-broil sues Broilmaster? It's stupid but that's the direction we're headed.
So, if I started marketing GMC Guitars you wouldn't think that there's a possibility that I'm trying to capitalize on a successful company’s name?
Honestly, I didn't mean to start a ruckus. But I guess that's what internets are for.
Post by: Kristin Meredith on August 04, 2020, 03:01:35 PM
Post by: pmillen on August 04, 2020, 03:03:55 PM
Honestly, I didn't mean to start a ruckus.
Oh! I apologize if I contributed to your feeling that you "started a ruckus." I love a good discussion, especially when it becomes a debate. It's always in a friendly fashion. It's what most of my friends and I do. It's one of the attractive things about Marcia.
My minister buddy brings a quart of beer to my house, bangs it down on the kitchen table and starts the debate. Sometimes it's about theology or church management and sometimes not. I love him like a brother.
Post by: Smeauxkin on August 04, 2020, 03:05:59 PM
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Post by: okie smokie on August 04, 2020, 03:16:41 PM
I suspect that the tune "Classical Gas" was played on a GMC guitar or maybe a Fender? :rotf:I'd never buy a GMC guitar. It would never hold a tune.If you show lack of attempt to protect your trademark, you run the risk of losing it.
Exactly. If TEC doesn't sue, over a period of years they might lose the ability to protect their trademarked name when it’s more important.It's silly because it is. Can companies start suing each other because they both use letters to spell their names? Should GMC sue PMC? Char-broil sues Broilmaster? It's stupid but that's the direction we're headed.
So, if I started marketing GMC Guitars you wouldn't think that there's a possibility that I'm trying to capitalize on a successful company’s name?
Honestly, I didn't mean to start a ruckus. But I guess that's what internets are for.
Post by: Kristin Meredith on August 04, 2020, 05:46:48 PM
Honestly, I didn't mean to start a ruckus.
Oh! I apologize if I contributed to your feeling that you "started a ruckus." I love a good discussion, especially when it becomes a debate. It's always in a friendly fashion. It's what most of my friends and I do. It's one of the attractive things about Marcia.
My minister buddy brings a quart of beer to my house, bangs it down on the kitchen table and starts the debate. Sometimes it's about theology or church management and sometimes not. I love him like a brother.
I was raised in a house where one parent was a Democrat and one was a Republican and debates were just a part of home life. It is part of the reason I just don't understand why folks of different political and social and religious views can't get along and have great discussions. It is how you expand your world view and learn to think about issues in a different light.
Post by: BigDave83 on August 04, 2020, 09:22:03 PM
Post by: lil moose on August 05, 2020, 08:04:54 AM
The nice thing is here they are civilized and there isn't name calling and people getting P'd off well for the most part.AMEN! Seems these days you can make anyone mad just by saying it's a nice day !
Post by: BigDave83 on August 05, 2020, 09:54:11 AM
Honestly, I didn't mean to start a ruckus.
Oh! I apologize if I contributed to your feeling that you "started a ruckus." I love a good discussion, especially when it becomes a debate. It's always in a friendly fashion. It's what most of my friends and I do. It's one of the attractive things about Marcia.
My minister buddy brings a quart of beer to my house, bangs it down on the kitchen table and starts the debate. Sometimes it's about theology or church management and sometimes not. I love him like a brother.
I was raised in a house where one parent was a Democrat and one was a Republican and debates were just a part of home life. It is part of the reason I just don't understand why folks of different political and social and religious views can't get along and have great discussions. It is how you expand your world view and learn to think about issues in a different light.
I agree on the why people can't get along no matter what their views.