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Not sure which way to Go...
« on: September 07, 2022, 06:36:49 PM »

So a friend that we have dinner with and I go to a meeting with every Friday brings this by this afternoon and says why don't we have this for dinner Friday instead of the usual pizza!  I say Great, have never cooked a "Tomahawk" Rib-eye, but always up for a new challenge.

I am not a big fan of Sous Vide for Beef for the Quality cuts, as most of the time, I do not care for the texture, so that is out for me.  This is a 3.5lb. cut, so even with the bone, a pretty nice hunk of Beef!  I am flip flopping back and forth on which way to go.  Start it on the Memphis Pro at about 600° for about 20 minutes with a turn every 5 minutes to get the crust and marks, and finish at 400° till 125°...Or, start out with the lower temperature and finish with the grilling?

I am of the mind set that I will have more control over the finished product if I go with the former technique! I figure the IT will be in the 85° to 100° range if I grill 1st, and the remaining low temp cook will be easier to control and pull so we get that prefect Medium (having to make a concession on finished doneness) if I get Hot out of the way 1st!


Guess we will see how it come out Friday.  I would like to see a bit more marbling in it, but free is good!  Also debating on cutting that fat down!


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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2022, 06:37:43 PM »

This is the time when I wish I had a bandsaw for that fat!
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2022, 06:54:50 PM »

I found the cutting before the finishing heat interesting!  I wish he would have said the temps of the low end ovens!

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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2022, 07:00:27 PM »

I cant say it for certain it was for him, but I chuckled when they brought the Cheeseburger out with the steak!  My kind of owner, you are in one of The Most famous Steakhouses and you eat a burger
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2022, 07:02:27 PM »

Any guesses as to what the side was on the far right at the end?  I have no clue.  Creamed Spinach on left, one of my favorite Steakhouse sides!
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2022, 08:14:18 PM »

Based on my experiences of grill fires, I like your first option.  You can pull the meat off while you get the temp down to 400 degrees.
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2022, 08:35:24 PM »

Any guesses as to what the side was on the far right at the end?  I have no clue.  Creamed Spinach on left, one of my favorite Steakhouse sides!

Looked at Peter Luger's website and I think those are the German Style fried potatoes.
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2022, 09:10:33 PM »

I would go for hot first also, sealing in the juices? Would take off a lot of that fat to avoid a 3 alarm when searing.
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2022, 10:50:14 AM »

The potatoes make sense!
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2022, 11:55:19 AM »

Start it on the Memphis Pro at about 600° for about 20 minutes with a turn every 5 minutes to get the crust and marks, and finish at 400° till 125°...Or, start out with the lower temperature and finish with the grilling?

I am of the mind set that I will have more control over the finished product if I go with the former technique!

I went from pre-sear to reverse-sear and then back to pre-sear for better temperature control.  But I was recently told of a Kansas State University study that proved that the reverse-sear method retained more weight.  That means that less liquid was lost when reverse-searing, which must mean it results in a juicer steak.
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2022, 01:56:57 PM »

I suppose I'll throw in my  :2cents: for all it's worth.

I've cooked a handful of these and the reverse sear method IMO provides an easier path to success.  I set it on smoke, maybe 180 or so for an hour, get the gasser up to 700 and then constantly probe check the temp.   A lengthy rest is called for as well. 

DK

PS I did much smaller rib eyes just last weekend for a crowd of 10 on a home made smoker (I think I must have posted that smoker on PH, couldn't find the link, but it's still kicking at our bug out campsite) and then over a live alder wood fire.  Turned out amazing.  But I wouldn't have been able to control the IT without a reverse sear. 
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2022, 01:58:28 PM »

We have tomahawk steaks several times every year.  I use Matt Pittman's recipe that can be found on Traeger's website.  The recipe smokes the steaks at 225 until an internal temperature of 120 is reached and then reverse sear.  I use my gasser for the sear.  This recipe works well with tri-tip also. 
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2022, 02:11:25 PM »

I also vote for reverse sear. Coincidently, I'm doing a 2"(1lb. 13oz) NY steak for supper tonight. I'm going to thaw, trim season, vacuum pack, sous vide and sear. I have no problem with 4 hour sous vide @ 128° texture.
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2022, 04:18:22 PM »

Not a fan of the reverse sear.  Dont care for the way the texture of the meat comes out!
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Re: Not sure which way to Go...
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2022, 12:27:04 PM »

For thick cuts of meat I like to pan roast in the kitchen. I always read that meat doesn’t absorb any smoke flavor over 180 so I figure it’s not gonna matter. It would be easy to adapt to outdoor cooking though. Sear in a cast iron pan, flip and transfer to the pellet grill till IT it where you want it.

I do like to reverse sear 1” and under though.
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