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Hank D Thoreau

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Smoked Turkey with Lessons Learned
« on: December 01, 2022, 05:36:01 PM »

We had our chef friend over for late Sunday Thanksgiving. We did a smoked turkey for the first time. I previously had trouble with leathery skin when doing legs. It was explained to me that this is because I did not cook hot enough to render the fat under the skin which causes it to stay in place and gel, rather than spreading throughout the meat.

The chef started by spatchcocking the turkey, which turned out to require more strength than expected. This was the first time she had done a turkey this way.

She separated the legs and thighs from the rest of the turkey. We used to the griddle to brown the turkey prior to placing it in the smoker.

I ran the smoker at about 300 to 325. We flipped the turkey near the end of the cook because the IT was showing low on top (145) but done on the bottom.

The turkey turned out pretty good but was not as moist as I get when I use my Weber cooker. I would rate it successful for a first try.

Lessons learned:

We should have pulled it at the time we flipped it.
We need to separate the thighs from the legs so that we can brown all the skin. I couldn't rotate the legs to get the button side.
We need to split the turkey down the middle to help with the browning. The full turkey was difficult to manipulate to get complete skin contact with the griddle.
We need to remove the wings so that they can be browned.
We need to cook the dark meat longer. My wife and I like really well-done dark meat. Even though it measured IT 175, it was still a bit rubbery.

Overall, it was a good learning experience. I have done many turkeys on my Weber cooker, and they all turn out great. This was pushing in a new direction.

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2022, 05:44:04 PM »

I am having difficulty with the system and cannot post the remaining pictures. It seems that I can do one at a time.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2022, 07:47:09 PM »

I don't know......that looks pretty darn good. :clap:  Only thing worries me about putting a turkey in my smoker, fowl absorbs smoke so fast that SWMBO won't eat it.  I have to be very careful when cooking any fowl for her.
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2022, 08:23:01 PM »

I would suggest if you are going to go that far in breaking down the bird, bone it all out. Bone out the breast, try keeping them in one piece skin intact, bone out the thighs ans you could do the legs with them attached or separated.

 This year I found out I had to do Thanksgiving dinner on Tuesday morning. So I had to go find everything I needed. boned it all out except for the legs, brined it for about 8 hours then bagged. SV the breast at 145 for 4.5 hours the dark meat at 175 for 7 hours. Put the breast under the broiler to brown and used the torch on the thighs. I left the legs for my self the next day and the wings I did them in the water and are in the fridge. I will take them out and either broil or try out the air fryer. I used the carcass and made stock.
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Re: Smoked Turkey with Lessons Learned
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2022, 08:39:07 PM »

I would suggest if you are going to go that far in breaking down the bird, bone it all out. Bone out the breast, try keeping them in one piece skin intact, bone out the thighs ans you could do the legs with them attached or separated.

 This year I found out I had to do Thanksgiving dinner on Tuesday morning. So I had to go find everything I needed. boned it all out except for the legs, brined it for about 8 hours then bagged. SV the breast at 145 for 4.5 hours the dark meat at 175 for 7 hours. Put the breast under the broiler to brown and used the torch on the thighs. I left the legs for my self the next day and the wings I did them in the water and are in the fridge. I will take them out and either broil or try out the air fryer. I used the carcass and made stock.

The large piece that contained the breast was completely boned out except for the wings. That was the step that took so much strength. The large section was sliced with no bone when done. See the last picture.

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Re: Smoked Turkey with Lessons Learned
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2022, 09:35:02 PM »

Looks like the skin came out fairly well.  I never eat it unless it is deep fried so it never is an issue with my Turkey cooks.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2022, 01:51:18 AM »

Looks like the skin came out fairly well.  I never eat it unless it is deep fried so it never is an issue with my Turkey cooks.

The skin came out fine. That was my biggest concern. Fortunately, I had just done turkey legs as a test and the skin was good.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2022, 11:50:12 AM »

Smoked turkey is a second to bacon in the number 1 thing requested off the smoker from family and friends.

I haven't purchased a whole turkey in years, maybe 8 or so.  I purchase turkey legs by the case (usually 15 in a case ~2 lbs each) then the Honeysuckle frozen turkey breast.  ~12 lbs, I'll cook two or more depending on # of guests.)

Brine, I go crazy, sometimes up to a week in the liquid.  Pink Salt, salt, pepper, cumin, garlic powder, paprika, brown sugar, liquid smoke, molasses.   Items in bold seem to be the key.

I'll start at 225, legs on first.  As indicated the dark meat can take a higher IT, I'll go up to 180.  If I don't like the skin, I'll even reverse sear on the gasser to crisp up at the end.  I spray with PAM at the onset.  Often cook up to 7 hours.

At the 2 or 3 hour mark, I'll add the breasts, same PAM, but pull with a much lower IT.  155 and let it come up to 160 or so.  For so many years I thought the white meat needed 180, and that is some dry turkey!  Now I know better.

While it takes a bit of brine prep, this is an incredibly easy way to knock it out of the park every time with turkey.  I suppose the main thought here is breast and legs are completely different meats for the cook. 

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2022, 12:33:44 PM »

Smoked turkey is a second to bacon in the number 1 thing requested off the smoker from family and friends.

I haven't purchased a whole turkey in years, maybe 8 or so.  I purchase turkey legs by the case (usually 15 in a case ~2 lbs each) then the Honeysuckle frozen turkey breast.  ~12 lbs, I'll cook two or more depending on # of guests.)

Brine, I go crazy, sometimes up to a week in the liquid.  Pink Salt, salt, pepper, cumin, garlic powder, paprika, brown sugar, liquid smoke, molasses.   Items in bold seem to be the key.

I'll start at 225, legs on first.  As indicated the dark meat can take a higher IT, I'll go up to 180.  If I don't like the skin, I'll even reverse sear on the gasser to crisp up at the end.  I spray with PAM at the onset.  Often cook up to 7 hours.

At the 2 or 3 hour mark, I'll add the breasts, same PAM, but pull with a much lower IT.  155 and let it come up to 160 or so.  For so many years I thought the white meat needed 180, and that is some dry turkey!  Now I know better.

While it takes a bit of brine prep, this is an incredibly easy way to knock it out of the park every time with turkey.  I suppose the main thought here is breast and legs are completely different meats for the cook. 

DK

So you are curing them using Cure 1, the pink salt in your recipe? I think I did something similar when Iused to try to make the disney style legs.I have cured a whole turkey is was very good, have not done that in years though.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2022, 01:23:52 PM »

yes the hammy Disney legs was my inspiration to go ahead and add the pink salt to the brine.  I just googled and it says 1/2 cup per gallon.  I'm not putting near that much in.    I'll have to play with the ratios next time I do legs. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2022, 03:38:19 PM »

yes the hammy Disney legs was my inspiration to go ahead and add the pink salt to the brine.  I just googled and it says 1/2 cup per gallon.  I'm not putting near that much in.    I'll have to play with the ratios next time I do legs.

When I do a brine I usually go 1.5 tablespoons to a gallon. Thanks for the conformation.
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