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Accessories & Essentials => Thermometers, Probes, Remote Temp Monitoring Systems etc. => Topic started by: Bar-B-Lew on October 27, 2018, 08:09:16 AM

Title: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on October 27, 2018, 08:09:16 AM
I received an email today from Thermoworks promoting using probes in your food while cooking.  In the picture, I noticed what looked like a 4 probe Smoke unit.  I don't see it on their website yet.  I suspect maybe they are holding it out to introduce it for a Black Friday sale or something special like that.  I just found it interesting that they would have a picture of it in use but not mention anything about it in the story.  It also had colored grommets on the probe and opposite end of the cable where you plug it into the unit so you can more easily tell which probe was which temperature on the units screen.

I may have to buy one and start selling some of my other stuff when it is ready for sale.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: triplebq on October 27, 2018, 09:48:10 AM
Yes I saw that also:


(https://i.imgur.com/VL0Ig1Rh.jpg)
https://blog.thermoworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Keep-the-cables-off-the-grill.jpg
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on October 27, 2018, 10:21:44 AM
Thanks for that close up picture.  It looks like the unit is wifi and bluetooth based on the symbols in the top left corner.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: triplebq on October 27, 2018, 10:46:48 AM
I'm putting this on my to buy list.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on October 27, 2018, 11:07:45 AM
I'm putting this on my to buy list.

Me too...like I need another one ;)
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: pmillen on October 27, 2018, 11:22:49 AM
Me too...like I need another one ;)

Yep, me, too.  My birthday's coming up and I'm hard to buy for.  I'll drop some suggestions hints.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Canadian John on October 27, 2018, 12:13:55 PM
 Thermoworks never ceases to amaze me..They just keep  on developing new products, a lot based on proven existing technology.

 I like the different coloured silicone, I D, o-rings. Good to have when using multiple probes, or to I D the ones in storage.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Piksil on October 27, 2018, 01:31:49 PM
I noticed the same today as well. I did a "reply" or "comment" on the blog site asking what it was. (Can't see my comment though, not sure if I will get a response or not :))
Anyway, looks like it is called "Signals" when I enlarged the pic.
Hmmm, Smoke, Signals, maybe it will pair with the Gateway as well.
ETA: also like the look of the solid back instead of the 'kickstand'. Maybe a magnetic back as well for different mounting options?
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Ross77 on October 27, 2018, 02:23:07 PM
I bet it doesn't need a gateway.  WiFi and bluetooth could possibly be built in.  It seems to be thicker than the smoke.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on October 27, 2018, 06:31:04 PM
I bet it doesn't need a gateway.  WiFi and bluetooth could possibly be built in.  It seems to be thicker than the smoke.

yes, looks thicker and looks like wifi and bluetooth built in with no need for a gateway like the Smoke.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Piksil on October 28, 2018, 07:19:24 AM
I bet it doesn't need a gateway.  WiFi and bluetooth could possibly be built in.  It seems to be thicker than the smoke.

yes, looks thicker and looks like wifi and bluetooth built in with no need for a gateway like the Smoke.
Doh! Makes total sense! Was not registering the Bluetooth and WiFi in my head...
So, my comment/inquiry pointing out the 4 probes has not been posted with other comments.  Guess we'll just have to wait 'til TW announces it.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: hughver on October 28, 2018, 10:13:06 AM
More probes, try this. I bought one a couple of months ago for $39.99. Not as robust as my Smoke but works great with the app.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: pmillen on October 28, 2018, 11:57:16 AM
The Official eBay store for Tenergy (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tenergy-BBQ-Digital-LCD-Meat-Thermometer-APP-Controlled-Bluetooth-with-6-Probes/391935077411?epid=26010468036&hash=item5b4126ac23) has them for $50 (banner across the top).  Your price is better.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: hughver on October 28, 2018, 12:31:54 PM
Got it from Amazon on a daily special.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Ross77 on October 28, 2018, 01:57:06 PM
How’s the Bluetooth range?  It’s usually not great.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: hughver on October 28, 2018, 02:04:31 PM
How’s the Bluetooth range?  It’s usually not great.

I've not had a problem with it. I normally monitor progress in my office which is about 35' away through 3 walls, one of them being brick.
Title: Re: 4 Probe Thermoworks Smoke
Post by: Canadian John on October 29, 2018, 10:23:52 AM

Update- I had some questions about the 4 Probe so I contacted Thermoworks. As usual they were prompt with the reply stating that relative information would be available shortly when the unit is officially

released.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on October 30, 2018, 07:42:56 AM
$229 - Just placed my order.  And **** I forgot to use the pellet fan method to give them credit.  Don't be stupid like me when you order yours.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on October 30, 2018, 08:50:18 AM
I ordered some of the cable extenders too.  They always come in handy.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: pmillen on October 30, 2018, 10:41:39 AM
The Fireboard uses a cloud-based solution to store data and info as well as an app for IOS or Android - meaning, you can also get to it via any browser on the internet.

Does the app availability for iOS & Android exclude Windows with Internet Explorer or Microsoft Edge?  Not that I care 'cause we're iOS/MacOS users but there are a lot of Windows users who may be excluded.

EDIT:  Oh, after re-reading your post I see that those who don't use iOS or Android can still access their data via any browser rather than the app.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: riverrat49 on October 30, 2018, 11:27:08 AM
Please let us know what kind of distance from the main unit you get with Bluetooth and WiFi  :clap:
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on October 30, 2018, 11:33:05 AM
I will most likely post a review once I receive it if Bentley is OK with that.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on October 31, 2018, 07:52:54 AM
Looks like I will have mine delivered prior to the weekend so I may get a review up here this weekend.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Canadian John on October 31, 2018, 08:02:13 AM

 Lew: With your many pits and extenders, the 4 Probe could be used on four of your pits at the same time.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Yellow-03 on October 31, 2018, 11:58:03 AM
I just noticed the operating range is stated as 32-122F.  I wonder if this just means the display doesn't work well at cold temps or the whole things stops working when it is freezing outside?
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Yellow-03 on October 31, 2018, 03:00:36 PM
An email blast from Thermoworks just arrived minutes ago.  An FAQ question is can I use it in the winter, and the answer is you can leave it out for long periods of time, even during the winter.  Not sure how that aligns to the stated operating range, though...
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: LowSlowFoShow on October 31, 2018, 03:09:57 PM
Link (with PF referral code)

https://www.thermoworks.com/Signals?tw=PelletFan (https://www.thermoworks.com/Signals?tw=PelletFan)
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Yellow-03 on November 01, 2018, 07:30:56 AM
I made an inquiry to Thermoworks about their stated operating range of 32-122F and their FAQ about winter operation.  Here is their response:

***
Hello,

Thank you for your email. While the ideal range is 32 to 122°F, because we know that our customers need to use it in the winter, we have done extensive tests on Signals and have validated that it works well in colder temperatures. We also took care to increase its waterproof rating to IP66. We do not, however, recommend storing Signals on a permanent basis outside. If you have any other questions or concerns please let us know.

Best regards,

Sarah Burton
Customer Care Team
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on November 01, 2018, 09:27:11 AM
Well, that was quick delivery from Utah to Eastern PA.  The mail service just dropped off the package a few minutes ago.  Looking forward to trying it out.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: hughver on November 01, 2018, 11:56:33 AM
I made an inquiry to Thermoworks about their stated operating range of 32-122F and their FAQ about winter operation.  Here is their response:

***
Hello,

Thank you for your email. While the ideal range is 32 to 122°F, because we know that our customers need to use it in the winter, we have done extensive tests on Signals and have validated that it works well in colder temperatures. We also took care to increase its waterproof rating to IP66. We do not, however, recommend storing Signals on a permanent basis outside. If you have any other questions or concerns please let us know.

Best regards,

Sarah Burton
Customer Care Team


I didn't buy one of these because I thought that the price was a little stiff for a gadget that I have ten others that serve a similar function. But having seen the specs. and read their response, I'm glad that my frugality won out. Their response is lame, it seems to me like they are saying that you can use it below 32° but if it fails, it's on you. Here in AZ if you are cooking in the summer sun, I'll guarantee you it will exceed 132°.   ???
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Deebo1133 on November 02, 2018, 10:11:09 AM
I received mine yesterday - pretty quick for the ye ol' postal service.  I have not used it yet for cooking, but a few observations.  This is not meant to be a PR, just some initial impressions.

1.  Setup for Wifi through the IoS app on my iPad was a very easy, at least registering it via Bluetooth at first, then connecting it to my home wifi network, then naming it.  the probe setup location is a bit confusing as you would expect it to be under Devices, but it is on the Home screen.  Very touchscreen friendly to navigate.  At first I couldn't find the probe setup thinking it should be under Devices, so I set each port manually via the pushbuttons - also very easy.
2.  The cable lengths of the pro series probes (ambient and food) are 47" - I find that very limiting, so ordered the Pro series cable extenders which adds 3 more feet or so.  I have the same issue with the MAK's food probes as they are relatively short (4 feet).  So if you place food on the upper grate away from the controller, the cables are stretched fairly tight. I wish all cables came as 6' as a "standard". The Fireboard comes with 6' cables on their probes and it makes it easy to route around food and upper and lower grates.
3.  The Alarms can be very loud.  Thankfully, Thermoworks provides a simple button to reduce the volume.  However, there does not seem to be an SMS (text) or email alert capability.  I may have missed that.
4.  The large zippered storage case is great.  Everything fits comfortably in it, with little net pouches to organize the probes, power cord and plug and the Signals box itself.

Hopefully I'll get a crack at using it for a cook this weekend.  I'll leave the PR to BBL as he offered to do that.
I would be very interested in your opinion between this and the Fireboard after you’ve had a little time to use it. I am pretty decided on the FB because I have a Kamado as well....


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Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on November 02, 2018, 10:51:25 AM
I am going to put my review on hold for a few weeks in case there is a raffle for this item on PF with Bentley performing a review.  If that does not materialize, I will work with Bentley on the timing of me doing a review.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: MP09 on November 02, 2018, 07:08:52 PM
Great Info. Raffle would be great...
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on November 02, 2018, 07:55:50 PM
great info sschorr....i don't have other branded equipment for a comparison


i am a big fan of thermoworks because i think they will be around for a longer time than other brands.  i will save that for another discussion.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bentley on November 02, 2018, 08:08:36 PM
Unless the raffle is something the Members can't live without...I think YOU should do the Product Review.  Kristin says she has to much on her with Dozier between now and Christmas, and quite frankly, you will do a better job on the review then I can!

If you are so inclined, do it at your leisure!


I am going to put my review on hold for a few weeks in case there is a raffle for this item on PF with Bentley performing a review.  If that does not materialize, I will work with Bentley on the timing of me doing a review.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Canadian John on November 03, 2018, 10:32:11 AM
Unless the raffle is something the Members can't live without...I think YOU should do the Product Review.  Kristin says she has to much on her with Dozier between now and Christmas, and quite frankly, you will do a better job on the review then I can!

If you are so inclined, do it at your leisure!


I am going to put my review on hold for a few weeks in case there is a raffle for this item on PF with Bentley performing a review.  If that does not materialize, I will work with Bentley on the timing of me doing a review.




+1. There can always be more reviews later as the product becomes more established.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Bentley on November 05, 2018, 01:47:22 PM
Members need to know there can also be more then one review done of any product by a Member.  I would think Members would love the multiple data!
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Yellow-03 on January 18, 2019, 09:22:19 AM
I received mine yesterday - pretty quick for the ye ol' postal service.  I have not used it yet for cooking, but a few observations.  This is not meant to be a PR, just some initial impressions.

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4.  The large zippered storage case is great.  Everything fits comfortably in it, with little net pouches to organize the probes, power cord and plug and the Signals box itself.

Would you mind posting a picture with everything placed in the zippered storage case?  I find the Signals box itself to be a very tight fit where I'm trying to put it anyway ;)  Just wondering if I'm overlooking something obvious.
Title: Re: Thermoworks 4 Probe Device - Signals - Bluetooth and Wifi
Post by: Yellow-03 on January 18, 2019, 01:54:48 PM
Thanks for the pic.  Thermoworks sent me a pic showing the Signals stored in the pocket underneath where you have it sitting on top.  That's where I was putting it too, although I felt this pocket was really too tight for the unit, and it was not very easy to insert.  They store  the probes in the left side pockets, the charger under where the Signals unit is sitting, and they have a Thermopen stored in the bottom right.  I'll never have my Thermopen in a case as it gets used way too often to be bothered with opening a case; rather it sits easily accessible in a drawer.