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Recipe Section => Beef => Topic started by: pmillen on December 20, 2019, 10:47:34 AM

Title: Beef Ribs
Post by: pmillen on December 20, 2019, 10:47:34 AM
Ingredients
Beef ribs
Your favorite rub

Directions
It's pretty simple.  I had a bit of a problem deciding when they should be pulled from the pit because the meat varies in thickness.

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Short ribs (6.6 lbs.)

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Trimmed to 5.9 lbs.

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Seasoned and rested.  Ready for the pit.

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Done.  I pulled a bone and took a bite.

They were pretty good; great "beefy" taste, tender but a bit "stringy".
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: bregent on December 20, 2019, 12:14:22 PM
Those look great. If they were a bit stringy then they probably just needed a bit more time. How long were in the cooker?
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: triplebq on December 20, 2019, 12:28:10 PM
Nicely done
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: yorkdude on December 20, 2019, 12:29:54 PM
Oh man those look good. Nice job.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: pmillen on December 20, 2019, 01:55:34 PM
If they were a bit stringy then they probably just needed a bit more time. How long were in the cooker?

They cooked for a bit more than five hours.  The "stringiness" is hard to define.  They didn't seem undercooked, it's just that the meat grain was obvious.  And it has a way of wedging between teeth.  (Maybe I'm the only person that happens to—it's age related.)
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: pmillen on December 20, 2019, 02:02:01 PM
I've got some I just dry brined, although these are already cutup

Please post your recipe and results.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: yorkdude on December 21, 2019, 10:11:41 AM
Holy smokes.
1. The view, terrible.
2. The cigar, terrible.
3. The drink, terrible.
What did you cook again?
Wow, FANTASTIC, who cares about the cook.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: pmillen on December 21, 2019, 10:13:32 AM
A.  You must be hardy to be able to endure that winter.

B.  The ribs look great.

C.  I had a bit of a stall, too.  In fact the internal temperature would sometimes drop a degree.  I hate wrapping ... so didn't.  After reading your comments I've concluded that it might be advisable.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on December 21, 2019, 02:05:19 PM
I lived in Chula Vista for about 15 months about 90 minutes south of you but I had the view of the mountains and a golf course versus your ocean view.  I miss that climate.  It was 20 years ago.  My only New Year's Eve/Day outside in shorts (comfortably) in my life.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on December 21, 2019, 04:50:57 PM
Thanks all.  BBL, I had the reverse sort of.  Lived in Chicago for 4 years, then Sat. Louis for 6 years.  I only miss the cold and snow just the week of Xmas/New Years, otherwise “ugh”. 

On the ribs, the problem with wrapping is having a decent place to insert a temp probe given the already separated ones I had.  Next time I think I’ll start them a couple of hours sooner.  If they finish early, I can always FTC or into a warmed oven until serving.

Haha...First 22 years of my life in Eastern PA, then 4+ in Memphis, 18 months in Colorado Springs, 15 months in Chula Vista, and 15 years north of Chicago, before the last 4.5 back in Eastern PA.  I've seen quite a few climates and time zones.  I remember people in San Diego telling me that there was 4+ climate zones within 30 or so miles of San Diego...crazy to think.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: Brushpopper on December 22, 2019, 09:43:27 AM
I can never seem to get mine tender and they are always stringy.  I don't think I'm cooking them long enough even though they get over 200 IT.  My brother says his come out tender after wrapping them.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: pmillen on December 22, 2019, 10:20:59 AM
I'm leaning toward wrapping the next time.  If I do, they're going into the kitchen oven.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: pmillen on July 13, 2020, 09:00:09 PM
Bump!

I sous vide cooked beef ribs at 135°F for three days, then fast chilled them in ice water, put them into the refrigerator.  I later smoked them at 225°F for 1:45 until the IT was ~170°F ~130°F.

There were large pads of fat left after all of that.  We ate them and the meat was wonderful but the fat was annoying.

Do you suppose that I bought two packages of ultra-fat beef ribs?  What the heck?

EDIT:  Corrected IT.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: bregent on July 14, 2020, 12:07:30 PM
Bump!

I sous vide cooked beef ribs at 135°F for three days, then fast chilled them in ice water, put them into the refrigerator.  I later smoked them at 225°F for 1:45 until the IT was ~170°F.

There were large pads of fat left after all of that.  We ate them and the meat was wonderful but the fat was annoying.

Do you suppose that I bought two packages of ultra-fat beef ribs?  What the heck?

I trim ALL of the fat cap from beef ribs - it does not render well.  I'm not sure what you gain by SV low for 3 days and then smoking to 170F - what is the idea behind this?
Also, by smoking them to 170 you missed out on something really special - rib eye tender, medium rare beef ribs. 
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: pmillen on July 14, 2020, 12:41:36 PM
I trim ALL of the fat cap from beef ribs - it does not render well.  I'm not sure what you gain by SV low for 3 days and then smoking to 170F - what is the idea behind this?
Also, by smoking them to 170 you missed out on something really special - rib eye tender, medium rare beef ribs.

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The fat cap was trimmed off.  It was the internal fat that was troublesome.  It wasn't all that obvious when raw.  I don't see how it survived 72 hours in SV.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: hughver on July 14, 2020, 12:52:54 PM
I sous vide cooked beef ribs at 135°F for three days, then fast chilled them in ice water, put them into the refrigerator.  I later smoked them at 225°F for 1:45 until the IT was ~130°F

FWIW, I recently did  boneless short ribs exactly in the same manor and they came out perfect. All of the fat was trimmed prior to sous vide.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: Bentley on July 14, 2020, 02:54:08 PM
Cooking meat to a higher IT after sous vide will not make the meat tough will it?
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: pmillen on July 14, 2020, 03:10:34 PM
Cooking meat to a higher IT after sous vide will not make the meat tough will it?

I suppose it would if the higher temperature dried it.  I guess that generates another question—does drying meat make it tough?  I think jerky is tough.  So I'd say, "Yes, it does."
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: hughver on July 14, 2020, 03:37:10 PM
Cooking meat to a higher IT after sous vide will not make the meat tough will it?

I'm not sure about tougher, but I'm quite sure that it would diminish flavor.
Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: bregent on July 15, 2020, 01:42:52 PM
> It wasn't 170°F.  IDK where that number came from.
> I corrected my post to 130°F.  Thanks for pointing that out.

Hehe, I was scratching my head trying to figure out why you were doing it like that.

I think a lot of internal fat can be a problem. It's not going to render at 130F. I've had a few like that but most of the time for me, there's just a little bit, and it has the taste and texture of prime rib fat - nice in small amounts. Here's a pic of a typical rib after SV and prior to smoking


Title: Re: Beef Ribs
Post by: hughver on July 15, 2020, 03:24:52 PM
Bregent, you are correct, not a lot of fat is rendered at 130° but all of the tough connective tissue has been dissolved giving you tender medium rare ribs kissed with a touch of smoke.   :lick: