Post by: GatorDave on June 03, 2018, 06:38:56 PM
Post by: texasbrew on June 04, 2018, 09:59:29 AM
Post by: pmillen on June 04, 2018, 11:02:18 AM
Post by: GatorDave on June 04, 2018, 11:18:54 AM
I was looking at the Grilla as well (to add additional cooking capacity). It is roughly the same diameter as the Weber Kettle (22") but taller. It seems to be a well built cooker but size didn't work for me. I am actually considering their other offering (the Silverbac).
There really isn't that much difference in size from the Silverbac to the Grilla. I watched a video where they put the grate from the Grilla into the silverbac and it wasn't as big a difference as you would expect. Definitely a difference, but smaller than I expected. I like the fact that with the round construction, temps will be more even around the whole cook surface, also I like that the pellets drop into the firepot from above rather than coming in through the burn pot. I feel that is a much safer route. The only thing I don't like about it is that I think it's kind of ugly.
Oh and another question for you guys. Is their statement that their programming of higher temp swings produces more smoke a true statement, or just good marketing to cover up the fact that they have wider temp swings.
Post by: pmillen on June 04, 2018, 12:01:25 PM
Oh and another question for you guys. Is their statement that their programming of higher temp swings produces more smoke a true statement, or just good marketing to cover up the fact that they have wider temp swings.
It’s true. If you designed a pellet delivery system to periodically deliver one or two pellets to precisely hold a temperature, you wouldn’t get much smoke. But if you let the temperature fall a bit below the setting and then delivered a lot of pellets, they would smolder more and make a lot more smoke before burning.
Then, when they finally burned, they would overshoot the setting and the delivery system would wait until the temperature fell before delivering another pile of pellets. During that waiting period it would probably have to drop a few pellets once in a while to keep the fire going.
Post by: GatorDave on June 04, 2018, 01:03:39 PM
Oh and another question for you guys. Is their statement that their programming of higher temp swings produces more smoke a true statement, or just good marketing to cover up the fact that they have wider temp swings.
It’s true. If you designed a pellet delivery system to periodically deliver one or two pellets to precisely hold a temperature, you wouldn’t get much smoke. But if you let the temperature fall a bit below the setting and then delivered a lot of pellets, they would smolder more and make a lot more smoke before burning.
Then, when they finally burned, they would overshoot the setting and the delivery system would wait until the temperature fell before delivering another pile of pellets. During that waiting period it would probably have to drop a few pellets once in a while to keep the fire going.
Well, that's another point in their favor. I like the sound of that. This whole pellet grill decision has been so hard. Grrr.
Post by: southern_leo on June 29, 2018, 03:23:22 AM
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Post by: Plant175 on July 03, 2018, 11:03:54 PM
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Post by: GatorDave on July 04, 2018, 05:11:38 AM
I've also considered them. I emailed the company concerning any smoke enhancing setting i.e. low smoke and high equivalent. The response I got was they do not do a smoke setting but they program In "swings" to cause more smoke. This supposedly causes more smoke than PID controllers that hold close temps. I was very interested in Grilla Grills until I read Amazon reviews. Most of the negative reviews are recent (2018). One concerned a fire hazard where a guys burn pot caught fire. I plan on doing some over night low and slow cooking and honestly this was a concern. Also it sounds like their great customer service basically left the guy hanging. I generally weigh more positive than negative reviews but fire hazards are HUGE concerns. This sucks because the Silverbac is probably in my top 3 grills I'm debating on! I'm currently strongly leaning towards the rec tec 700. Id rather spend a few hundred more for a grill I know will last and has outstanding reviews across the board. If I knew the grilla was solid I may consider otherwise. As of now i cant find a reason to not buy rec tec other than the price. And if I plan to have this grill for many many years then spending 1200 now is cheaper than spending 700 now then having to buy another in 3-5 years. Buy once cry once seems to apply to grills from what my research is finding.
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Fires can happen on any brand of smoker. They are rare, but they happen. One of the things that was top of my list for a smoker is to have a firebox that the pellets drop into from above rather than enter through the firepot. This is a much safer configuration in my opinion. The original grilla had this, which is why it was on my list. I bought a different pit though, and time will tell whether or not it was the right choice. Definitely do your research and you will make the right choice for you.
Post by: GatorDave on July 04, 2018, 04:45:39 PM
I've also considered them. I emailed the company concerning any smoke enhancing setting i.e. low smoke and high equivalent. The response I got was they do not do a smoke setting but they program In "swings" to cause more smoke. This supposedly causes more smoke than PID controllers that hold close temps. I was very interested in Grilla Grills until I read Amazon reviews. Most of the negative reviews are recent (2018). One concerned a fire hazard where a guys burn pot caught fire. I plan on doing some over night low and slow cooking and honestly this was a concern. Also it sounds like their great customer service basically left the guy hanging. I generally weigh more positive than negative reviews but fire hazards are HUGE concerns. This sucks because the Silverbac is probably in my top 3 grills I'm debating on! I'm currently strongly leaning towards the rec tec 700. Id rather spend a few hundred more for a grill I know will last and has outstanding reviews across the board. If I knew the grilla was solid I may consider otherwise. As of now i cant find a reason to not buy rec tec other than the price. And if I plan to have this grill for many many years then spending 1200 now is cheaper than spending 700 now then having to buy another in 3-5 years. Buy once cry once seems to apply to grills from what my research is finding.
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Where did you find Amazon reviews of them? I tried to find them, but there are no Grillas on Amazon.
Post by: southern_leo on July 04, 2018, 05:17:13 PM
They don't sell them in Amazon but used to apparently. To find old Amazon ads just go to Google and type "grilla grill amazon" it will come up and you can still read the reviewsI've also considered them. I emailed the company concerning any smoke enhancing setting i.e. low smoke and high equivalent. The response I got was they do not do a smoke setting but they program In "swings" to cause more smoke. This supposedly causes more smoke than PID controllers that hold close temps. I was very interested in Grilla Grills until I read Amazon reviews. Most of the negative reviews are recent (2018). One concerned a fire hazard where a guys burn pot caught fire. I plan on doing some over night low and slow cooking and honestly this was a concern. Also it sounds like their great customer service basically left the guy hanging. I generally weigh more positive than negative reviews but fire hazards are HUGE concerns. This sucks because the Silverbac is probably in my top 3 grills I'm debating on! I'm currently strongly leaning towards the rec tec 700. Id rather spend a few hundred more for a grill I know will last and has outstanding reviews across the board. If I knew the grilla was solid I may consider otherwise. As of now i cant find a reason to not buy rec tec other than the price. And if I plan to have this grill for many many years then spending 1200 now is cheaper than spending 700 now then having to buy another in 3-5 years. Buy once cry once seems to apply to grills from what my research is finding.
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Where did you find Amazon reviews of them? I tried to find them, but there are no Grillas on Amazon.
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Post by: Plant175 on July 04, 2018, 10:24:52 PM
Post by: Smeauxkin on July 04, 2018, 11:10:51 PM
Post by: cajunrph on July 07, 2018, 11:41:20 AM
Just shy of 250 more sq inches on the Silverbac with the extra grill grates and the Grilla with it's extra grill grate. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180707/8e26c54e55b5e04fa616e93552e92a23.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180707/d2a0b22112e8f858f26a7598e2d1337a.jpg)I was looking at the Grilla as well (to add additional cooking capacity). It is roughly the same diameter as the Weber Kettle (22") but taller. It seems to be a well built cooker but size didn't work for me. I am actually considering their other offering (the Silverbac).
There really isn't that much difference in size from the Silverbac to the Grilla. I watched a video where they put the grate from the Grilla into the silverbac and it wasn't as big a difference as you would expect. Definitely a difference, but smaller than I expected. I like the fact that with the round construction, temps will be more even around the whole cook surface, also I like that the pellets drop into the firepot from above rather than coming in through the burn pot. I feel that is a much safer route. The only thing I don't like about it is that I think it's kind of ugly.
Oh and another question for you guys. Is their statement that their programming of higher temp swings produces more smoke a true statement, or just good marketing to cover up the fact that they have wider temp swings.
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Post by: wyd on August 01, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
One of the reasons I bought my Louisiana LG900 was the fact that the pellets dropped into the fire pot. I didn't sell the Grilla Grills at the time I was looking for pellet grills 2 years ago. If I was buying now I do love the feature of the pellets dropping but I really think the price point of the Grilla Grills Silver Bac is a great deal and I might pull the trigger on one of those if I didn't have my LG900. From reading it does seem like Grilla Grills has lots of good reviews overall. Good luck with your search. Very tough to pic out which grill to go with.I've also considered them. I emailed the company concerning any smoke enhancing setting i.e. low smoke and high equivalent. The response I got was they do not do a smoke setting but they program In "swings" to cause more smoke. This supposedly causes more smoke than PID controllers that hold close temps. I was very interested in Grilla Grills until I read Amazon reviews. Most of the negative reviews are recent (2018). One concerned a fire hazard where a guys burn pot caught fire. I plan on doing some over night low and slow cooking and honestly this was a concern. Also it sounds like their great customer service basically left the guy hanging. I generally weigh more positive than negative reviews but fire hazards are HUGE concerns. This sucks because the Silverbac is probably in my top 3 grills I'm debating on! I'm currently strongly leaning towards the rec tec 700. Id rather spend a few hundred more for a grill I know will last and has outstanding reviews across the board. If I knew the grilla was solid I may consider otherwise. As of now i cant find a reason to not buy rec tec other than the price. And if I plan to have this grill for many many years then spending 1200 now is cheaper than spending 700 now then having to buy another in 3-5 years. Buy once cry once seems to apply to grills from what my research is finding.
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Fires can happen on any brand of smoker. They are rare, but they happen. One of the things that was top of my list for a smoker is to have a firebox that the pellets drop into from above rather than enter through the firepot. This is a much safer configuration in my opinion. The original grilla had this, which is why it was on my list. I bought a different pit though, and time will tell whether or not it was the right choice. Definitely do your research and you will make the right choice for you.
Post by: GatorDave on August 01, 2018, 02:48:53 PM
One of the reasons I bought my Louisiana LG900 was the fact that the pellets dropped into the fire pot. I didn't sell the Grilla Grills at the time I was looking for pellet grills 2 years ago. If I was buying now I do love the feature of the pellets dropping but I really think the price point of the Grilla Grills Silver Bac is a great deal and I might pull the trigger on one of those if I didn't have my LG900. From reading it does seem like Grilla Grills has lots of good reviews overall. Good luck with your search. Very tough to pic out which grill to go with.I've also considered them. I emailed the company concerning any smoke enhancing setting i.e. low smoke and high equivalent. The response I got was they do not do a smoke setting but they program In "swings" to cause more smoke. This supposedly causes more smoke than PID controllers that hold close temps. I was very interested in Grilla Grills until I read Amazon reviews. Most of the negative reviews are recent (2018). One concerned a fire hazard where a guys burn pot caught fire. I plan on doing some over night low and slow cooking and honestly this was a concern. Also it sounds like their great customer service basically left the guy hanging. I generally weigh more positive than negative reviews but fire hazards are HUGE concerns. This sucks because the Silverbac is probably in my top 3 grills I'm debating on! I'm currently strongly leaning towards the rec tec 700. Id rather spend a few hundred more for a grill I know will last and has outstanding reviews across the board. If I knew the grilla was solid I may consider otherwise. As of now i cant find a reason to not buy rec tec other than the price. And if I plan to have this grill for many many years then spending 1200 now is cheaper than spending 700 now then having to buy another in 3-5 years. Buy once cry once seems to apply to grills from what my research is finding.
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Fires can happen on any brand of smoker. They are rare, but they happen. One of the things that was top of my list for a smoker is to have a firebox that the pellets drop into from above rather than enter through the firepot. This is a much safer configuration in my opinion. The original grilla had this, which is why it was on my list. I bought a different pit though, and time will tell whether or not it was the right choice. Definitely do your research and you will make the right choice for you.
The pellets don't drop in on the Silverbac, only on the original Grilla. I wound up going with the Smoke-N-Hot Outdoor Cooking Center. It was, and still is a gamble, as there isn't much info on it out there.
Post by: Plant175 on December 27, 2018, 06:13:11 PM
Post by: LowSlowJoe on March 13, 2019, 03:12:31 PM
I personally think it's more marketing hype than real value, but hey, it is interesting that you could choose which to use on one of their grills in the new model year.
If they had offered WiFi too, I might have bought a controller to use on some other pellet grill I own, but without WiFi, it doesn't have enough appeal to me.
Post by: Bentley on March 13, 2019, 03:35:21 PM
Has anybody jumped on their Wednesday night live feed ? Each week you can ask some of the pro’s questions on grilling or smoking.
Post by: LowSlowJoe on March 14, 2019, 02:33:19 PM
Post by: dk117 on March 14, 2019, 09:20:02 PM
I was once paid to make some pulled pork, that makes me a pro. :)I cannot say I placed in the American Royal, nor ever competed in a real event but I did a catering gig once. 3 pork butts, 3 huge chuck roasts. So I'm a pro too! ;D
DK
PS Plant175, it's all in good fun, but you do have some pro's here. Especially our owners.
Post by: Kristin Meredith on March 15, 2019, 07:27:52 AM
The membership of this site has some of the best cooks and pitmasters I have ever encountered. The breath of knowledge and creativity is staggering -- and folks share unstintingly!! If you pose a question, you usually get numerous replies and perspectives -- all from folks who are doing it from a love of cooking/grilling/bbqing/pelletcooking and no thought of any commercial benefit. So you get a lot of different perspectives, tips and insights. Something I don't feel any other site can offer!!!
Post by: pmillen on March 15, 2019, 08:52:26 AM
What always lurks in the back of my mind though, is that they are usually doing it as a business and so there are/maybe influences in their opinions or sites based on a monetary reason.
I share that thought. I frequently see this kind of article on web sites or printed publications—"The Wham Gadget is the best XXXX made." Then, on the following page, I find an ad for the Wham Gadget. It seems reasonable that Wham Gadget will want to tell the public where to purchase their product, but most ads are just general information. I always wonder if the ads generated the "Best XXXX" article.
Post by: Bentley on March 15, 2019, 12:31:48 PM
Post by: GatorDave on March 15, 2019, 01:55:43 PM
Wham Gadget...I like that one! I have just renamed this! Please don't sue me!
(http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n90/lwnna/How%20to%20Pictures/IMG_2423.jpg)
That is one xxxx of a hairbrush. Is that by Dyson? :rotf:
Post by: Bentley on March 15, 2019, 04:01:42 PM
Post by: cookingjnj on March 15, 2019, 04:09:56 PM
If you can imagine, that was going to be a meat tenderizer!
Wow, that gadget could tenderize a Chevrolet Bent!
Post by: Canadian John on March 15, 2019, 04:46:03 PM
I thought it was a back scratcher. Guess I was wrong.
Post by: Maynerd on August 13, 2019, 11:35:55 PM
Post by: pmillen on August 14, 2019, 01:17:23 PM
Post by: pmillen on August 17, 2019, 03:20:37 PM
David, I think that you can get tight temperature control if you take a few minutes to "tune" the pellet delivery after the food is inside. I'll see if I can find a graph from stoker that I use to monitor my PG500, it's used as a remote-reading thermometer and grapher, not a controller.
Okay, I cooked salisbury steak at 350° in my PG500 last night. Here's the temperature graph–
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It was rolling along at ± a couple of degrees variance until I peeked in a little after 6:25. Then, when I again opened the door to put vegetables in, the temperature was upset and I never gave it a chance to recover because I opened the doors a third time.
I'm confident that it would have continued with a flat temperature line, like the first 10 or 12 minutes, if I'd not kept opening the doors. That's pretty tight temperature control for a timing-based controller.