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All Things Considered => General Discussion--Non food Related => Topic started by: Bentley on February 18, 2019, 11:15:54 PM
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Have seen video of folks spraying the expanding foam into tires to make them usable. This is off the Gurilla cart. Wheels are about 4 years old. Did not know such little tires ever had tubes in them anymore. Saw a couple of videos on youtube where folks just drilled a few holes in the tires to release the air, and to have a few points to put in the foam.
Letting it set up till tomorrow hoping 20 hours will be a long enough cure. I realized it was going to way over expand, just not quite this much. Used the whole can, cuz the manufacture even states, you will find it very difficult to ever use again. What I was not smart enough to do was plug the 3 drill holes and the valve stem hole. I think if I had done that, the tire would have been much firmer. I think it is going to work, just believe if the stuff had not been able to escape, it would have made the tire much stiffer.
Pretty sure a new tube would have been at least $10, and new tire maybe $20...This can was of Great Stuff was under $3 with tax! I guess we see tomorrow if it works!
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Or a patch for $1
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I would say you have enough foam..My only concern would be if the foam will be firm enough to support the load w/o breaking down.. Time will dictate the outcome.
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That's an interesting fix, have never seen that before. Interested to see how it does.
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Take tube out (pain), have to deal with the 8 oz of Slime sealant that is in the tube (will get mad enough to break something in garage), find hole(s), repair with X amount of patches, have to put back on tire and hope it holds...OR...rip tube out of tire with it still on rim, drill 3 holes, inject $3 worth of foam, put back on cart and it works great.
My time ain't worth much, but my sanity is!
Or a patch for $1
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My concern also, but will never go over 5mph, so hoping that mitigates any deformation issues!
I would say you have enough foam..
My only concern would be if the foam will be firm enough to support the load w/o breaking down.. Time will dictate the outcome.
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That is about 150lbs. of wood and it does not seem to be deformed, so time will tell, but happy so far!
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You would think that the little stuff on the wheels is just stuff that got stuck as I was filling. Those were actually cracks in the rubber I could not even see and as the foam expanded and I am assuming the drilled holes & valve stem started to get plugged , the foam started to extrude from them.
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I've got the same wagon and the tires are always low. Let us know how it turns out. It's not like it'll be hitting high speeds.
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When that first picture came up, I wanted to grab a spoon and dig into that ice cream! :D
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Ha... I was just thinking 'Bentley, you sure made a mess'.
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I had the same problem with the tires on my hose cart, Harbor Freight has replacements for cheap (less than $5 on sale).
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I was going to suggest Harbor Freight also but they would soon be leaking . Keep us updated on the fix.
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Only been 5 days, but working great and has about 200lbs. of wood in it now.
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I have one of those carts up at the cabin. Works great.
Z
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Solid rubber tires are great. They do produce a bumpier ride but never go flat. I worked in several auto plants while putting myself through college and that's all they used on equipment and bicycles due to flat hazards. Pneumatic tires always give me problems on the few pieces of equipment that I have them on. My miter saw table uses them and I can always bet on them being flat and the bead broken when it's needed. It seems I spend more time getting the bead to seat and getting the tires inflated than using the saw.
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Technology is moving rather slowly but it might not be too long when we'll see automobile tires that aren't pneumatic. There are several working prototypes but, so far, I don't know of any offered to consumers. They're usually sophisticated molded tires and not just a pneumatic tire filled with something other than air.
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My preference would have been to fill it with the stuff they did my 2 front tractor tires with. I had to have them sent to a place in PA, and it was about $125 a tire to fill, but, guess what, no flats in 3 years!
I am sorry to report there is a "dent" in the tire. Not sure if it simply was having the weight of the wood on it, or I used it to soon and did not let it cure long enough. It still rides better then when it is out of air. If I had it to do again, I would have had one air escape hole and as soon as I saw foam coming out I would have made sure it was well sealed and not lose the rigidness of the expanding foam!
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Takes a 7.62 mm round and keeps on ticking! Wish I could find the youtube one on tractor tires I was looking for!
Army Tire Tech (https://youtu.be/2wAvxQfusWU)
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The dent spot can you drill hole and add some more?
Mudflap
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I was wondering that my self!
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If it happens to one of the other tires you might want to try the "Fix A Flat" product. I have had good luck with that.
Z
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I was wondering that my self!
I was thinking if you drill a hole then stick screwdriver in it and kind of pry the low spot loose/up some before filling. Maybe???
Earlier you talked about using to much. I framed in a new front door and someone told be to use foam for the insulation. So I thought why not. Well I got the door installed perfectly square and everything worked good so I thought I would put foam in before we went to town. Well we got back from town and decided to use the front door for the first time and we could not get in the house. The foam expanded so much it pushed the frame into the door so it would not open. I had to dig out all the foam and re square the door. That is how I found out don't use to much.
Mudflap
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They have 2 products. Minimal and maximum. For doors and windows, spossed to use the minimal. Usually it's spossed to swell towards path of least resistance not push against framework. Never had this happen to me and I've done quite a few doors and windows. Perhaps I've just been lucky.
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Looks like back left is failing, so may try it in the tube, I think that is a fail before I ever do it, but it should be a fun fail. Might even video tape it for many years of laughs!!
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I figured that would happen every time you have weight on tire and run over tree limb, rock, sidewalk curb anything putting all weight in small surface area. It was worth the try. Saw Harbor Freight has theses tires $8 each. The foam fill for tractor tires is great but added 200# to each of my tires. The product they use in my tires is more like a solid rubber substance than a closed cell urethane foam out of a can.