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Title: New cut of beef....
Post by: TechMOGogy on September 18, 2017, 08:58:29 PM
Ok well it's not "new" but it's new to me which is kinda weird as I eat copious amounts of cow!
Picanha or Top Sirloin Cap
It's the top beef cut eaten in Brazil, there is only 1 per carcus side and it is a muscle that is used very little so it is insanely tender but... also has flavor!
It's about 3.5-4lbs and has a thick (3/8"+) fat cap on it.
You can cook it whole or you can do like I did and slice it into 3-6 steaks (I sliced into 5)
I just used kosher salt an hour before cooking it (very heavy salt on the fat), seared it on hi and then finished on indirect.
I like medium-rare so I went to 132 and pulled it.
I am sorry I have no pictures other than when I bought it - I really expected it to be just "ok" but it literally was one of the best steaks I have ever eaten!
Tender, flavorful and insanely juicy!!
If you have never heard of it or tried it - do yourself a favor and go for it.
Dan

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Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: ZCZ on September 18, 2017, 09:58:02 PM
Grill that puppy up and show us some pictures!
Z
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Free Mr. Tony on September 18, 2017, 09:59:49 PM
Rotisserie them occasionally. Awesome cut.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Kristin Meredith on September 18, 2017, 10:11:40 PM
Learned something new today.  Thanks!
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Queball on September 18, 2017, 10:54:50 PM
What do they charge per pound?
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Quadman750 on September 19, 2017, 04:55:31 AM
Is it too lean for pulled beef.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: TechMOGogy on September 19, 2017, 07:55:29 AM
What do they charge per pound?
I'm in Canada so my price will be way off for you - I paid $40 (about $32 usd) and it was just shy of 4lbs

Is it too lean for pulled beef.
Its basically like a ribeye as far as marbling goes - not sure you would want to spend the $ to then pull it - there are better cuts for that.

Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: LowSlowJoe on September 19, 2017, 08:19:38 AM
OK, so my quick web search says...   Brazilian picanha, is also known as the Top Sirloin Cap...    The Brazilian cut , is left with a rather thick piece of fat on it until after it's cooked...


  but anyway, I wonder if this cut is included if/when a person buys a whole sirloin that's not already butchered...  I haven't figured that out yet.

Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: pmillen on September 19, 2017, 09:42:49 AM
I wonder if this cut is included if/when a person buys a whole sirloin that's not already butchered...  I haven't figured that out yet.

Yeah, I'm all confused.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Free Mr. Tony on September 19, 2017, 09:47:12 AM
What do they charge per pound?
I'm in Canada so my price will be way off for you - I paid $40 (about $32 usd) and it was just shy of 4lbs

Is it too lean for pulled beef.
Its basically like a ribeye as far as marbling goes - not sure you would want to spend the $ to then pull it - there are better cuts for that.

Not that different than what I pay. Between 7-8/lbs. Interesting that it's marbled like ribeye. Most of the ones I get are leaner.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Free Mr. Tony on September 19, 2017, 09:52:49 AM
OK, so my quick web search says...   Brazilian picanha, is also known as the Top Sirloin Cap...    The Brazilian cut , is left with a rather thick piece of fat on it until after it's cooked...


  but anyway, I wonder if this cut is included if/when a person buys a whole sirloin that's not already butchered...  I haven't figured that out yet.

Can't say for 100% sure, but based on my purchases I bet that it is. My butcher does not have these out for for sale. When I ask for one, they bring out the giant cryo pack of the whole cut. They then feel around for where the muscle seams are, and cut out the triangular shape of meat.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: LowSlowJoe on September 19, 2017, 11:55:51 AM
OK, so my quick web search says...   Brazilian picanha, is also known as the Top Sirloin Cap...    The Brazilian cut , is left with a rather thick piece of fat on it until after it's cooked...


  but anyway, I wonder if this cut is included if/when a person buys a whole sirloin that's not already butchered...  I haven't figured that out yet.

Can't say for 100% sure, but based on my purchases I bet that it is. My butcher does not have these out for for sale. When I ask for one, they bring out the giant cryo pack of the whole cut. They then feel around for where the muscle seams are, and cut out the triangular shape of meat.

 Interesting... I always see whole sirloins and they look so tempting to buy, because the price is usually pretty good.   I've only bought one once, and had barely a clue what I was doing... I ended up cutting it up , grilling pieces , then cutting the grilled 'steaks' up and making chili out of it.... It was great chili...  but recently I bought some PRIME Sirloin Tip... and it was... darn near as good as any steak I've ever had... now with this new revelation of the picanha, I'm back to thinking about buying more whole sirloins.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Free Mr. Tony on September 19, 2017, 12:23:59 PM
this is a really good book for this cut. build your own pit, cook plans, marinades, etc.

https://m.barnesandnoble.com/p/churrasco-evandro-caregnato/1122670786/2673540287408?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+greatbookprices_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP24181
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: TechMOGogy on September 19, 2017, 12:34:17 PM
this is a really good book for this cut. build your own pit, cook plans, marinades, etc.

https://m.barnesandnoble.com/p/churrasco-evandro-caregnato/1122670786/2673540287408?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+greatbookprices_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP24181

Thx - I have been looking at buying a wood fired grill... perhaps I weld one up :)

Re: marbling - I wrote ribeye but was thinking strip, correct, it is not as marbled as a nice ribeye!
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: pmillen on September 19, 2017, 02:22:26 PM
this is a really good book for this cut. build your own pit, cook plans, marinades, etc.

https://m.barnesandnoble.com/p/churrasco-evandro-caregnato/1122670786/2673540287408?st=PLA&sid=BNB_DRS_Marketplace+Shopping+greatbookprices_00000000&2sid=Google_&sourceId=PLGoP24181

Disappointed!  I no longer buy paper books.  I don't see it as an iBook or Nook Book.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: GregW on September 19, 2017, 06:46:32 PM
That's a great looking cut.
I've never seen that cut in any of my local stores.

I'm certainly going to be on the lookout for it.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Bentley on September 19, 2017, 06:53:52 PM
I know all the Brazilian Steak house love it as one of there cuts, they will usually leave that fat cap on for looks when grilling and carving!  Glisining fat, is ther really any prettier site?  Fogo da Chow in Vegas was one I remember!

Picanha or Top Sirloin Cap
It's the top beef cut eaten in Brazil, there is only 1 per carcus side and it is a muscle that is used very little so it is insanely tender but... also has flavor!


(https://i.imgur.com/GGz47bTh.jpg)
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: GregW on September 19, 2017, 07:01:35 PM
I know all the Brazilian Steak house love it as one of there cuts, they will usually leave that fat cap on for looks when grilling and carving!  Glisining fat, is ther really any prettier site?  Fogo da Chow in Vegas was one I remember!

Picanha or Top Sirloin Cap
It's the top beef cut eaten in Brazil, there is only 1 per carcus side and it is a muscle that is used very little so it is insanely tender but... also has flavor!

(https://i.imgur.com/uLcAb8Vh.jpg)


I had forgotten that I had saw that cut at the Texas De Brasil in my area.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Free Mr. Tony on September 19, 2017, 07:02:07 PM
I know all the Brazilian Steak house love it as one of there cuts, they will usually leave that fat cap on for looks when grilling and carving!  Glisining fat, is ther really any prettier site?  Fogo da Chow in Vegas was one I remember!

Picanha or Top Sirloin Cap
It's the top beef cut eaten in Brazil, there is only 1 per carcus side and it is a muscle that is used very little so it is insanely tender but... also has flavor!


(https://i.imgur.com/GGz47bThs.jpg)

I'm not an all you can eat guy normally, but I've been to a few Brazilian steakhouses. Very high on my top meals list. In addition to the crazy salad bar, the meat is all wonderful too. Oddly enough, a skewered chicken wing from fogo was probably the best piece of chicken that I've had.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: GregW on September 19, 2017, 07:58:23 PM
I know all the Brazilian Steak house love it as one of there cuts, they will usually leave that fat cap on for looks when grilling and carving!  Glisining fat, is ther really any prettier site?  Fogo da Chow in Vegas was one I remember!

Picanha or Top Sirloin Cap
It's the top beef cut eaten in Brazil, there is only 1 per carcus side and it is a muscle that is used very little so it is insanely tender but... also has flavor!


(https://i.imgur.com/GGz47bThs.jpg)

I'm not an all you can eat guy normally, but I've been to a few Brazilian steakhouses. Very high on my top meals list. In addition to the crazy salad bar, the meat is all wonderful too. Oddly enough, a skewered chicken wing from fogo was probably the best piece of chicken that I've had.

I've only been a couple times for a buisness lunch at Texas De Brasil. I don't really care for it, not because the foods not good, I actually like the food. My dislike for it is they starve me to death, if you really like the more expensive beef, they only come around with it every 15 to 20 minutes, then they are off to the other side of the dining room. lots of other less expensive cuts make their rounds in the interim.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: TechMOGogy on September 19, 2017, 09:28:52 PM
I cooked the 2 remaining pieces/steaks that I cut.
Here they are pre salt
You can see the marbling
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Resting
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I like mine medium rare
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Dinner time :)
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Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Quadman750 on September 19, 2017, 09:44:36 PM
Cooked the way I like it, looks good.
Title: Re: New cut of beef....
Post by: Bentley on September 19, 2017, 09:45:55 PM
Did not see the fat caps in the other photos, those are real nice!