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All Things Considered => General Discussion--Non food Related => Topic started by: Bentley on November 06, 2020, 06:32:38 PM

Title: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: Bentley on November 06, 2020, 06:32:38 PM
I think it was called the Edge Pro that Glen brought to the 2010 American Royal.  I tried it, it was difficult for me to do well, but I have to say the knife I sharpened, never seen anything like it.  It truly scared me on how sharp it was.  I realize this is no Edge Pro, but for $48 I would be willing to buy it and do a Product Test of it.  I saw this on Facebook, so you can imagine how skeptical I am.  I guess I thought I would run it by you all 1st to see if anyone has ever seen one, and know they are garbage?  If not, like I said for $41.95 + shipping, not sure I can go wrong?

CULTICATE Knife Sharpening System (https://www.culticate.com/products/professional-knife-sharpener-1?utm_source=Sharpener-Interest-10.30+-+Kitchen+stove+-2&utm_medium=Sharpener-Post-1&utm_campaign=Sharpener-Interest-10.30+-+Kitchen+stove+&fbclid=IwAR2VSriBWQbEvR6_5Be5hxhighr9IV4KDv7wFS1uhCwD5f_0GTOcfTWbgEc&variant=36785353425060)

(https://i.imgur.com/5zAulAM.jpg)
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: BigDave83 on November 06, 2020, 09:15:41 PM
Didn't now what an Edge Pro was so I went to look. They are pricey to say the least, even the cheap one.

I also saw this one, there is a 5% off on it also, the stone grits I would think would be better in it also.
https://www.amazon.com/KKmoon-Upgraded-Fixed-angle-Sharpener-Sharpening/dp/B00EU7OXHU/ref=sr_1_14?crid=26X4CRLM7UU3X&dchild=1&keywords=edge+pro+knife+sharpening+system&sprefix=edge+pro+kni%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-14

I am linking this one also if that is okay, it looks to have different stone grits than the other 2, not available, but there are some similar products on this page. Plus it gives you 2 products with some reviews to maybe help you with your decision.

https://www.amazon.com/AGPTEKProfessional-Kitchen-Sharpener-System-Fix-angle/dp/B00ABVS5VY/ref=sr_1_15?crid=26X4CRLM7UU3X&dchild=1&keywords=edge+pro+knife+sharpening+system&sprefix=edge+pro+kni%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-15
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: Herb on November 07, 2020, 08:13:24 AM
I bought the original Edge Pro system years ago. I used up the original coarse stones putting the correct edge on two sets of Zwilling and Henkels knives. I haven't needed to use the Edge Pro again in years as the edge is so good now that we only need to touch up with a Lanskey ceramic crock stick quickly before using to achieve a razor edge again.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: Brushpopper on November 07, 2020, 01:15:50 PM
Looks interesting and it's cheap enough to try.  I wonder if the Edge pro stones would fit it?  My concern would probably be the performance of the suction cups and being able to keep it in place.  Much cheaper than the Ken Onion Work Sharp.  I know you got knives very sharp with the review you did on it.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: GREG-B on November 07, 2020, 02:27:36 PM
 This one from Amazon screws down to a board. Also is mostly metal. Wonder if being metal, it might be sturdier after being screwed down?  Their Chinese store appears to have replacement stones.
       https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074J7DP98?pf_rd_r=RFQ5K24A2WA73VTD724Q&pf_rd_p=edaba0ee-c2fe-4124-9f5d-b31d6b1bfbee&pd_rd_r=fa8b2eda-2c14-4c11-8545-9c1072a29af9&pd_rd_w=a9MR5&pd_rd_wg=AOewz&ref_=pd_gw_unk
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: pmillen on November 09, 2020, 03:29:38 PM
Here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_4wpoEW2C7zwhCtpxhYbxPftpy3uaLj_cWChPtpNcMcF-v_RfM9m1pPWSvVD6RkbIi2knnxi1zL5r-xedHbaOfz_d8ug&_hsmi=99368462&ab_channel=WorkSharpSharpeners&v=hde8ADVaahE) a sneak peak at a similar sharpener that will soon be released.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: BigDave83 on November 09, 2020, 04:38:27 PM
Here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_4wpoEW2C7zwhCtpxhYbxPftpy3uaLj_cWChPtpNcMcF-v_RfM9m1pPWSvVD6RkbIi2knnxi1zL5r-xedHbaOfz_d8ug&_hsmi=99368462&ab_channel=WorkSharpSharpeners&v=hde8ADVaahE) a sneak peak at a similar sharpener that will soon be released.

That looks interesting, and you can adjust the angle. the only drawback I really see is the stone grits and that they are fastened in the handle.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: WiPelletHead on November 09, 2020, 05:31:03 PM
Here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_4wpoEW2C7zwhCtpxhYbxPftpy3uaLj_cWChPtpNcMcF-v_RfM9m1pPWSvVD6RkbIi2knnxi1zL5r-xedHbaOfz_d8ug&_hsmi=99368462&ab_channel=WorkSharpSharpeners&v=hde8ADVaahE) a sneak peak at a similar sharpener that will soon be released.

That looks interesting, and you can adjust the angle. the only drawback I really see is the stone grits and that they are fastened in the handle.

I see that Amazon will have it in 3 weeks. Priced at 49.95. The directions say the stones can be replaced individually.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: pmillen on November 09, 2020, 06:23:27 PM
In my experience with a few of these sharpeners that clamp the blade, they won't properly accommodate a knife that's narrow from spine to cutting edge or has a small blade, like a paring knife.  They generally work fine on chef's knives, hunting knives, average sized folding knives and such.

They are a bit dangerous in that the user may expose a finger to the edge being sharpened.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: WiPelletHead on November 09, 2020, 07:09:58 PM
Paul do you have an estimate on how long a blade can be sharpened with these?
I have no idea as I've never been near one.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: pmillen on November 09, 2020, 07:39:28 PM
Paul do you have an estimate on how long a blade can be sharpened with these?

That's a function of the length of the angle-setting rod.  I think most will easily sharpen a 10-inch chef's knife.  Probably longer, but I don't know the limit.

Based on the apparent rod length, a 14-inch slicing knife might be a bit too long.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: WiPelletHead on November 09, 2020, 08:19:24 PM
Thanks Paul. The longest I have is a 10" chefs knife. The ones I would use it the most is a 6" chefs knife and an 8" slicing knife.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: pmillen on November 10, 2020, 10:00:16 AM
Yesterday, I asked this question on a YouTube Work Sharp introduction video, "What is the longest blade that it can sharpen without releasing and re-clamping?"  No answer yet.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: BigDave83 on November 10, 2020, 10:50:48 AM
If your blade is longer, could you not reclamp at a different spot to finish the blade?
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: WiPelletHead on November 10, 2020, 01:24:32 PM
This is the reply that I received from Kayla at Wok Sharp.

"Great question! An 8” blade is easy.  We’ve sharpened up to a 10”chef’s knife, but when you start getting up to 10” in length, only about 2 ½” of the abrasive is being used. While it is possible, it’s not ideal.

When sharpening a longer knife, there is less abrasive that comes in contact with the blade.  Using an up and down stroke as shown in the user’s manual helps to overcome this."
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: pmillen on November 10, 2020, 01:59:29 PM
If your blade is longer, could you not reclamp at a different spot to finish the blade?

Yes.  There's a bit of a downside to this in that the user may create a spot on the edge where the two sharpenings don't match well.  That's why, in my question to Work Sharp, I asked, "What is the longest blade that it can sharpen without releasing and re-clamping?"
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: pmillen on December 21, 2020, 12:32:15 PM
Evidently the Work Sharp Precision Adjust Knife Sharpener sold out at all outlets in less than a month.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: W6YJ on December 21, 2020, 07:43:08 PM
In looking at videos o the Work Sharp and similar products, I was more than slightly surprised to see people moving the sharpening stone up and down over a fixed position on the blade.

To me, that seems like it would make a somewhat uneven edge versus sliding the sharpening stone along the length of the blade.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: pmillen on December 21, 2020, 08:08:45 PM
In looking at videos o the Work Sharp and similar products, I was more than slightly surprised to see people moving the sharpening stone up and down over a fixed position on the blade.

To me, that seems like it would make a somewhat uneven edge versus sliding the sharpening stone along the length of the blade.

My father, the lifelong butcher, taught me to hold the whetstone in one hand and stroke the knife edge back and forth on it with the other.  I asked the same question, "Won't one portion of the blade be worn down more than the area right next to it?"  His answer, "Only if you rub one area 50 times more than the next."

Evidently, the individual strokes don't remove an appreciable amount of material and they tend to overlap and even out.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: W6YJ on December 21, 2020, 08:49:50 PM
Hah, that's good to know. I would have never guessed.

Thanks...
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: pmillen on December 22, 2020, 09:53:06 AM
The Work Sharp stones are much narrower that the typical hand-held whetstone, so the overlap can't be as great.  I'd think along your lines and move the stones laterally along the blade edge as I made my sharpening strokes.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: W6YJ on December 22, 2020, 06:21:00 PM
That would be my method also.
Title: Re: Could be a Product Test?
Post by: Jimsbarbecue on December 24, 2020, 12:20:17 AM
We have a Edge Pro and as mentioned once sharp. They stay that way for a long time. If the one you have is a good knock off it should be grate. The Edge Pro has some good videos on how to use.