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Title: Coffee
Post by: urnmor on May 25, 2021, 09:18:19 PM
The importance of coffee

Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: BigDave83 on May 26, 2021, 07:04:45 AM
I know some ladies that would have done that.

I could never figure out what to put in it to make it taste as good as it smells as it brews.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Kristin Meredith on May 26, 2021, 07:33:31 AM
What sensible people! :pig:
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Kristin Meredith on May 26, 2021, 07:35:20 AM
I know some ladies that would have done that.

I could never figure out what to put in it to make it taste as good as it smells as it brews.

I need to make my coffee really strong, in the good Norwegian way!  All this weak coffee being sold is not worth buying.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on May 26, 2021, 07:57:55 AM
I only drink coffee when it is added as part of a stout or porter.  Go figure.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: 02ebz06 on May 26, 2021, 08:59:06 AM
Don't like the smell of it brewing or the taste.
But I love the smell of the coffee beans in the grocery aisle.   ???
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Canadian John on May 26, 2021, 09:24:22 AM

 Speaking of Turkish coffee:

 https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/turkish-coffee
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Chris__M on May 26, 2021, 10:40:52 AM
I know some ladies that would have done that.

I could never figure out what to put in it to make it taste as good as it smells as it brews.

I need to make my coffee really strong, in the good Norwegian way!  All this weak coffee being sold is not worth buying.

I grew up well into my 30s thinking that I didn't like coffee.

Turned out what I didn't like was (a) instant coffee (b) weak coffee.

I am still very much a tea person, but I have 1-2 cups of coffee a day, usually in the morning. I have a bean2cup machine, and use it to make double shot espressos, which I sometimes make into a long black, and sometimes foam milk; but usually just take it as it comes.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: pmillen on May 26, 2021, 10:43:53 AM
I need to make my coffee really strong, in the good Norwegian way!  All this weak coffee being sold is not worth buying.

Yes!  Church basement coffee is likely to turn people totally away from coffee (maybe the church).
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: urnmor on May 26, 2021, 10:56:50 AM
I only drink coffee when it is added as part of a stout or porter.  Go figure.

Why does this not surprise me :-\
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Bentley on May 26, 2021, 12:38:32 PM
Yeah, see through coffee is the worst, I prefer to cut mine!
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: jgrayson on May 26, 2021, 03:27:26 PM
To this day (I'm not 51 years old) I have never had a cup of coffee.  I love the smell of coffee, so I have a feeling I would really like it and then it would turn into an expensive habit.  One of the things I don't need is to start joining my coworkers on their daily walks to Starbucks (or other pricey coffee joint).  I'll stick with water, tea (usually iced), and beer/cider.

Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: 02ebz06 on May 26, 2021, 04:43:27 PM
To this day (I'm not 51 years old) I have never had a cup of coffee.  I love the smell of coffee, so I have a feeling I would really like it and then it would turn into an expensive habit.  One of the things I don't need is to start joining my coworkers on their daily walks to Starbucks (or other pricey coffee joint).  I'll stick with water, tea (usually iced), and beer/cider.

I'm with you, I drink 2-3 28 oz. glasses of caffeine-free ice tea daily.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Kristin Meredith on May 26, 2021, 04:58:58 PM
All through college, law school and 30 years in an office (several within a short walk of Starbucks) never bought a Starbucks or other pricey coffees unless buying a client a cup.  I made better coffee at home and had a pot at work I used and made my own.  Why pay a lot for overpriced stuff that isn't as good or as strong as I make.  I now have French press I take when we travel and make my own in the hotel because the last Starbucks I broke down and bought on the road was expensive and very mediocre.  They sure got folks to buy into their PR campaigns!
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: hughver on May 26, 2021, 07:20:50 PM
To this day (I'm not 51 years old) I have never had a cup of coffee.

I'm just the opposite, I started drinking coffee pre-teen and have been drinking  3-5 cups a day ever since. I have more coffee pots than smokers, my go to pot is a Phillips (formally Saeco) super automatic that holds 2L of water, grinds the beans and brews the coffee at 15+ atmospheres of pressure. I've had coffee all over the world and my coffee is as good or better than all of them (IMHO).
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: SmokinHandyman on May 26, 2021, 08:00:01 PM
No coffee for me
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Chris__M on May 27, 2021, 05:21:33 AM
I'll try to be delicate; one of the reasons why I acquired my coffee habit (and also why I will only drink it at home) is that I am one of the 30% of people who find that drinking coffee stimulates my... um... digestion.  :P

This used to be a occassional issue for me, and finding it can be fixed with a couple of cups of coffee was a revelation, leading me to make it a regular thing.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: ylr on May 27, 2021, 11:49:19 AM
It has that effect on me, too!  :rotf: I only drink it when it's very cold out, and I get sleepy while working night shifts, maybe 10 cups a year ?
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: TravlinMan on May 27, 2021, 01:37:50 PM
Love my Coffee, the good, fresh ground, brewed at home variety.

Grew up walking through the local A & P store, taking in the aroma from the fresh ground 8 o'clock coffee.

Closest I found to it is - 8 o'clock - Columbian Peaks. I have a Cuisinart Mill and Brew with an insulated carafe. Not perfect - but - in my opinion a good overall cup of Joe - Bold, smooth, full bodied and not burnt or bitter..

Personally - not a Starbucks fan or many of the other 'specialty brands'.  As far as 'common church coffee' not a fan either, been in a can under the counter too long and usually been in the carafe way too long and is ready to peel paint..  (exaggeration there..  :rotf: )

Everyone has their own tastes and preferences, and I enjoy a little expresso or stronger coffee on occasion, but the above is my favorite go to morning cup of Joe.

Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: hughver on May 27, 2021, 03:15:35 PM
This is the device that I currently use.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Canadian John on May 28, 2021, 08:48:44 AM

  Is licencing a requirement of operation ? Looks somewhat like an airplane cockpit.   ;)

  Just couldn't resist that.  Sorry!
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Bar-B-Lew on May 28, 2021, 03:43:58 PM
Love my Coffee, the good, fresh ground, brewed at home variety.

Grew up walking through the local A & P store, taking in the aroma from the fresh ground 8 o'clock coffee.

Closest I found to it is - 8 o'clock - Columbian Peaks. I have a Cuisinart Mill and Brew with an insulated carafe. Not perfect - but - in my opinion a good overall cup of Joe - Bold, smooth, full bodied and not burnt or bitter..

Personally - not a Starbucks fan or many of the other 'specialty brands'.  As far as 'common church coffee' not a fan either, been in a can under the counter too long and usually been in the carafe way too long and is ready to peel paint..  (exaggeration there..  :rotf: )

Everyone has their own tastes and preferences, and I enjoy a little expresso or stronger coffee on occasion, but the above is my favorite go to morning cup of Joe.

Did they have A&P stores outside of the Northeast?
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: TravlinMan on May 28, 2021, 07:06:20 PM
Love my Coffee, the good, fresh ground, brewed at home variety.

Grew up walking through the local A & P store, taking in the aroma from the fresh ground 8 o'clock coffee.

Closest I found to it is - 8 o'clock - Columbian Peaks. I have a Cuisinart Mill and Brew with an insulated carafe. Not perfect - but - in my opinion a good overall cup of Joe - Bold, smooth, full bodied and not burnt or bitter..

Personally - not a Starbucks fan or many of the other 'specialty brands'.  As far as 'common church coffee' not a fan either, been in a can under the counter too long and usually been in the carafe way too long and is ready to peel paint..  (exaggeration there..  :rotf: )

Everyone has their own tastes and preferences, and I enjoy a little expresso or stronger coffee on occasion, but the above is my favorite go to morning cup of Joe.

Did they have A&P stores outside of the Northeast?

This was in the mid to late ‘60’s and possibly very early ‘70’s in SW Michigan. In a town of about 1,500 to 2,000 - Estimated..

A & P - Atlantic and Pacific ? 

That’s as well as the memory works at this point in time. Like a Stephen King Movie - at times it is in a little ‘Fog’
And we did not drive ‘Christine’ to the store, or have a pet dog named ‘Cujo’, our back yards did at times resemble a ‘Pet Semetary’
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: urnmor on May 28, 2021, 07:22:26 PM
I remember A&P they were big in NE and when I was young boy I remember going to their warehouse in Boston with my Dad.  For a  little boy it was a huge  place with a lot of  different foods.  I especially remember the bananas hanging down on the vine and being told be careful of the tarantulas . As they were deadly
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: ylr on May 28, 2021, 11:38:17 PM
A&P was in Owensboro, KY, at one point, I recall hearing about them, but have no clue where they were in town. Most google references are of obituaries of people that worked there.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Fire708 on May 29, 2021, 12:31:54 AM
Being from the NW I can easily state that Starbucks is a horrible example of good coffee. 20 years ago they were great. The Baristas made your coffee. Now it’s pretty much automated and blah. I can do much better at home for a lot less money.
My wife and I have a machine very similar to Hughs. Love it. We also have a French press for Sunday’s. Love the way the press makes a great coffee.

Seattle coffee gear and Whole Latte love are great resources for those who love coffee. Great bean selection from both. Our current favorite is Kroger house brand Guatemalan. It’s probably the best coffee I’ve ever drank.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: urnmor on May 29, 2021, 07:21:43 AM


Seattle coffee gear and Whole Latte love are great resources for those who love coffee. Great bean selection from both. Our current favorite is Kroger house brand Guatemalan. It’s probably the best coffee I’ve ever drank.
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I would also add Chris’s Coffee as another source.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: MMike on May 29, 2021, 08:09:19 PM
We love coffee. We were drinking 10 k cups a day...$210 a month. Switched to a $2,400 Z6 Jura. Its super automatic bean to brew...Paid for itself in 18 months.  :cool:
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: hughver on May 29, 2021, 08:57:11 PM
The Jura is a nice machine that makes great coffee but a little out of my price range. My $600 Saeco will have to do for now.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Bentley on May 29, 2021, 10:54:47 PM
At that price I would also need it to rub my feet in the evening!
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: MMike on May 31, 2021, 06:22:23 AM
Its counterintuitive.....cheaper than a Keurik  coffee maker for a family that uses 10 K cups a day . It doesn't rub your feet :)..but it automatically makes Flat Whites, cappuccino, etc...
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: texasbrew on May 31, 2021, 02:09:09 PM
I have found that I can get a pretty good cup of coffee from a $30 Aeropress and a $20 electric kettle from Amazon.  As far as beans, I like the Just Black from Black Rifle Company as it seems to pair well with the Aeropress style of brewing.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: elenis on June 01, 2021, 08:15:50 AM
I like the smell of coffee, just don't like the taste. My wife says she likes coffee, but I think she really likes creamer and splashes some coffee in it so people don't look at her weird.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Canadian John on June 01, 2021, 11:45:42 AM
I have found that I can get a pretty good cup of coffee from a $30 Aeropress and a $20 electric kettle from Amazon.  As far as beans, I like the Just Black from Black Rifle Company as it seems to pair well with the Aeropress style of brewing.
 
 I am heavy into coffee. The subject seems almost endless... Along the way I encountered the Aeropress - nothing but excellent reviews. Just so many ways this simple device can constru coffee. It's easy, fast,

 easily cleaned, the filters dirt cheep, easily tucked away for travel...Due to its low cost and many attributes, there are  Aeropress competitions galore.

 texasbrew: How do brew using the Aeropress and your experiences please.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: texasbrew on June 01, 2021, 12:37:58 PM
Here is what I am doing now with it.

I am using the upside down method.
1.  I hand grind a heaping scoop of beans (I only hand grind so I don't have as big of a battle with static electricity holding on to my coffee grounds).
2.  I boil water and let it cool to between 195 and 205 deg F.
3.  I add the grounds to the Aeropress.
4.  I add the water to cover the grounds (some place in between the 4 and 3 on the Aeropress).
5.  I start a stopwatch.
5.  I stir for 10 seconds.
6.  I let it idle until 40 seconds.
7.  I top off the water in the Aeropress and let it idle until I hit the 2 min 10 seconds on the stop watch.
8.  During idle I add the Aeropress filter and wet it down.
9.  At 2 min 10 seconds I install the filter cover and invert so that filter is on top of coffee cup.
10.  I gently press until I start to hear a hiss from the coffee grinds.
11.  I then top off my coffee cup with water.

I hope that this helps.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Canadian John on June 01, 2021, 12:58:22 PM

 Thanks texabrew.  All we have to do now is to keep management happy by somehow brewing coffee using pellets.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: urnmor on June 01, 2021, 03:58:58 PM
Here is what I am doing now with it.

I am using the upside down method.
1.  I hand grind a heaping scoop of beans (I only hand grind so I don't have as big of a battle with static electricity holding on to my coffee grounds).
2.  I boil water and let it cool to between 195 and 205 deg F.
3.  I add the grounds to the Aeropress.
4.  I add the water to cover the grounds (some place in between the 4 and 3 on the Aeropress).
5.  I start a stopwatch.
5.  I stir for 10 seconds.
6.  I let it idle until 40 seconds.
7.  I top off the water in the Aeropress and let it idle until I hit the 2 min 10 seconds on the stop watch.
8.  During idle I add the Aeropress filter and wet it down.
9.  At 2 min 10 seconds I install the filter cover and invert so that filter is on top of coffee cup.
10.  I gently press until I start to hear a hiss from the coffee grinds.
11.  I then top off my coffee cup with water.

I hope that this helps.

 I do similar when camping with minor modifications for 6 7 & 9.  At home a a an espresso  machine that I use in the money however i do grind the beans before going into the portafilter.  I brew for approximately 25 seconds
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Darwin on June 02, 2021, 09:25:29 PM
The Bialetti moka pot is my favorite for making coffee, but I rarely have the patience to stand over it in the morning.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: njshooter on June 02, 2021, 10:47:14 PM
I love coffee.  have ever since 1st cups in my early teens.   also saw/remember the A&P 8 o'clock coffee with the grinders right at the checkout isles clearly here in NJ.   learned black, always drank black.  remember being confused 1st time i ordered a regular coffee (i thought meant black) when i was 16 at dunkin & it came cream & sugar.   i learned what 'regular' meant then.  i've done electric percolators, drip makers, ground my own, french presses, keurig machines, cowboy coffee (camping) stovetop perc's, & that stovetop espresso maker.  love it all.  best way to have coffee is reading the newspaper or possibly having a good chat with someone face to face.  my wife doesn't drink coffee.  none of her siblings do either.  all of her siblings' spouses do though.  weird.  anyways.  just thought i'd share. 
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Trooper on June 06, 2021, 08:01:00 PM
I drink a couple of cups first thing in the morning.
Black. No cream or sugar.

And DIG THIS:

I don't like my coffee too strong.

I've had plenty of visits to truck stops at 2:45 AM or so, and the coffee would knock your socks off.
ICK.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Canadian John on June 07, 2021, 09:20:58 AM


 I am with you on that one Trooper.. I like to be able to taste the coffee (black) .  That bitter, burnt and just not properly brewed coffee is a turn off. Some is so strong I get the jitters when forced to drink it.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: ezgoin on June 07, 2021, 09:52:40 PM
When I drink coffee, I'm black also.  I remember visiting in Connecticut back in the mid 70s.  We went to an all night coffee shop after a movie, and when I ordered coffee, I was asked if I wanted regular coffee.  That's the only kind I had ever heard of so I said, "Yes."  I didn't know that up there, that meant cream and sugar.  I almost choked.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: urnmor on June 08, 2021, 08:40:42 AM
When I drink coffee, I'm black also.  I remember visiting in Connecticut back in the mid 70s.  We went to an all night coffee shop after a movie, and when I ordered coffee, I was asked if I wanted regular coffee.  That's the only kind I had ever heard of so I said, "Yes."  I didn't know that up there, that meant cream and sugar.  I almost choked.

Being from Boston that was how I was use to my Coffee until I joined the Army.  Another popular way of drinking coffee in New England was ice coffee.  It was served in a big glass with milk and Ice.

So one time I was in Louisiana and asked for ice coffee.  They gave it to me black in a coffee cup with two ice cubes as they had never heard of it.  Ice tea was a different story
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Bob The Smoker on June 22, 2021, 04:46:34 PM
Well I guess I am the weird one here. I roast green coffee beans mostly from South America until the "second cracking" to get the oils the way I like them. I seal them up for a day and then grind what I need for the day. I use a Bonavita drip coffee maker. It is pricey for a drip coffee maker but the carafe alone is worth it. It has a shower head for drip. No bells or whistles; just an on switch. This has caused a problem for me because I can't drink any other coffee when I travel.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Brushpopper on June 22, 2021, 05:01:55 PM
I drink a couple of cups first thing in the morning.
Black. No cream or sugar.

And DIG THIS:

I don't like my coffee too strong.

I've had plenty of visits to truck stops at 2:45 AM or so, and the coffee would knock your socks off.
ICK.

Same here.  When you're patrolling at 4 AM and that monster in your head tells you to go to sleep, you need a cup.  Truck stop coffee was all we could get and it was a rough.  I bet it would float a horseshoe sometimes.  But it got the job done and kept me from wrecking my unit many times.  My wife could never understand why I couldn't go to sleep when I got home after a night shift. 
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Canadian John on June 23, 2021, 08:54:21 AM
Well I guess I am the weird one here. I roast green coffee beans mostly from South America until the "second cracking" to get the oils the way I like them. I seal them up for a day and then grind what I need for the day. I use a Bonavita drip coffee maker. It is pricey for a drip coffee maker but the carafe alone is worth it. It has a shower head for drip. No bells or whistles; just an on switch. This has caused a problem for me because I can't drink any other coffee when I travel.
Some people use the Aeropress when traveling to assure the cup meets their standard... 35MM film canisters do well at storing the coffee. There are new ones being sold online for that purpose. A good hand grinder would assure as best as you can get freshness. Most motels have a rudimentary coffee maker that would provide hot water.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: ZCZ on June 23, 2021, 05:03:18 PM
I know some ladies that would have done that.

I could never figure out what to put in it to make it taste as good as it smells as it brews.

I need to make my coffee really strong, in the good Norwegian way!  All this weak coffee being sold is not worth buying.

Swede here and I like it strong too!
“You can always tell a Swede . . . . but you can’t tell him much.”  Probably true for Norskie’s too.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: Canadian John on June 02, 2022, 08:45:23 AM

 I see you are very much into coffee.  The Comandante is one heck of a grinder. One to cherish.


 As far as ZCZ's post on Sweed's. I have worked with them. Strong coffee is an understatement. First it is brewed strong +, then a good dose of instant coffee added to the cup.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: MP09 on June 02, 2022, 10:01:28 AM
Black coffee for me. Airport coffee in the middle of the night was the worst.
Title: Re: Coffee
Post by: elenis on June 03, 2022, 08:35:59 AM
Yeah, see through coffee is the worst, I prefer to cut mine!

I find coffee to be nasty stuff, but your post made me think of my grandpa. He was in WWII when they introduced rations, but they didn't give them much instruction. They gave them this little cake of coffee so they could make coffee and he used the whole thing. Turns out you were supposed to just scrap some off and it was supposed to last a week. He said it was just about thick enough you could chew it, but he wasn't about to waste it.