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All Things Considered => General Discussion--Non food Related => Topic started by: Bentley on August 18, 2021, 04:00:13 PM
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I was thinking as we cool down and go into Fall, I would be more inclined to use the Memphis Pro. I also thought to generate some content for the site I might try some food from places like Omaha Steaks and the like. I know we have had discussions about them, but to the best of my knowledge I have nevr had them and was thinking a review might be interesting. Food reviews are very subjective, but I believe you all trust my general knowledge on food and I believe I could be some what objective in certain criteria.
I relly don't know of any "food delivery" places other then Omaha. Do you all have any other suggestion of something like it? Would there be certain things you would like to see. Got a little extra cash I am will to shell out, specially when it is something I enjoy eating.
So any input would be welcome.
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I personally have always wondered about whether Omaha steaks was a gimmick or not so I would be interested in that.
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Snake River Farms is one that delivers.
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Figured I would start late September with the Omaha Steaks, I am curious too! Will have to look into what they offer and also SRF right now and see what a good sampling is. Might as well just go through the suggestions as they come in! Wonder if $100 will even buy anything!
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Sam's Prime vs Costco Prime
$100 won't get you much from SRF.
Check for specials that SRF and Omaha Steaks have on their websites. They usually always have something. The coolers are really good to use for keeping food warm and not worrying about getting juices all over them. If you ruin it, you throw it out and it cost you nothing.
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Great idea. I will be interested in seeing how this turns out.
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Butcher Box is another delivery company. However, I have not used them, and I do not think they allow for ordering of individual steaks etc, only packages (but not sure on that one). I have used Omaha in my younger days. Expensive for what you actually get in my opinion, but remember the products being pretty good though.
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SRF. Porter Road, Creekstone Farms, Allen Brother. All have excellent product and ship to your door. 25 years ago I tried Omaha and thought "I can find this good at the local Safeway. They might have changed but I have not heard much good about them
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Kansas City Steak Company&Trade is another one I've been curious about also. I'm afraid to order from them, thinking they're probably similar to Omaha Steaks of which I have never been all that impressed with.
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Years ago I had training in Marshalltown Iowa. The company always brought us to Rubes Steakhouse for the final dinner.
Always had coolers packed for my return trip. The beef is the best I've ever had !! They do ship !! Not a big company that
advertises nationally, but I guess they don't have too !!! You will not regret the order !!
https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm (https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm)
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Great idea. I will be interested in seeing how this turns out.
Me too.
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Years ago I had training in Marshalltown Iowa. The company always brought us to Rubes Steakhouse for the final dinner.
Always had coolers packed for my return trip. The beef is the best I've ever had !! They do ship !! Not a big company that
advertises nationally, but I guess they don't have too !!! You will not regret the order !!
https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm (https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm)
I'd become a vegan before I'd pay that much for a single steak. :'(
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My niece's husband has a BBQ food truck and catering business. This is the sausage he uses. It was vey good but I don't know what flavor he served us. I doubt it was duck and pork or alligator and pork. Yep. They sell them.
https://www.hudsonsmeatmarket.com/shop
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We had an Omaha Steaks outlet here local in Dallas. I tried them out some years back, was not impressed with any of the meat. Small portions, no real flavor, and over priced.
Just my 0.02cents worth.
mk
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I recently tried 8oz. American Wagu beef patties from SRF and they were better than the run of the mill burgers but IMO not worth the price. I also saved the box for FTC application.
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https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm (https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm)
That T-Bone is $34/lb. I think that the prospective buyers are limited.
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https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm (https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm)
That T-Bone is $34/lb. I think that the prospective buyers are limited.
You would probably be surprised how many people buy that stuff or buy it for customers, clients, etc. That is probably a fair price if it is top shelf meat because you probably pay $60-$75/lb for a great steak in a great steakhouse nowadays.
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And I am fully well prepared that maybe the outcome. I guess it is the Quest to say, yes, I have eaten it and can give an educated recommend pro or con,,,and as I said for some content. I have cheeped out on the site over the last 18 months.
We had an Omaha Steaks outlet here local in Dallas. I tried them out some years back, was not impressed with any of the meat. Small portions, no real flavor, and over priced.
Just my 0.02cents worth.
mk
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I think back to the recent trip to Maine, we bought shelled Crab for $27/lb. That equals $1.68/oz. They wanted $60/lb for shelled Lobster, that is $3.75/oz. (That is never gonna happen for me!) I took a deep breath when I saw the SRF prices for their Beef. They want $45/lb, for Prime Rib-eye which is $2.81/oz without shipping.
The prices make a cheap screw like me cringe, but I just gotta get to the point where I click the button. I am looking at something like this for the 1st go round. They are out of the Skirt Steak, I think I will wait till it is in and substitute it for the Sirloin. Assuming it is in in a few weeks, I am to be notified when they are available, if they are not in by mid September i will just get this!
Would be enough to sous vide half and traditionally grill half!
(https://i.imgur.com/HjXxpQLh.jpg)
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My interest in mail-order meat, small to begin, vanished with Costco's expansion into prime beef, Priced at around 1/2 mail-order, not frozen and no shipping. Plus, you can pick your steaks!
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I am pretty sure my research will show that between Restaurant Depot & Costco, this is exactly right! If it takes a few $$$ to make me know that for certain, so be it, its not like I have to eat BBQ to do it! :pig:
My interest in mail-order meat, small to begin, vanished with Costco's expansion into prime beef, Priced at around 1/2 mail-order, not frozen and no shipping. Plus, you can pick your steaks!
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Wonder how the local butcher shops would compare to mail order? Was at our local establishment yesterday and saw rib-eye at $20.00 a lb. Wasn't curious enough to get any. Just got some breakfast sausage.
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I'm a SRF fan with a sample size of two (tri tip and brisket for which I posted results on PF). But only if I'm feeding for a special occasion. With you two, it would be tough to justify the price of a gold brisket.
DK
PS I really would like to see the content and the results of your testing.
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Will be more comment then testing. I wish there was a scale for tenderness and flavor, things like that. I guess you could come up with a tenderness scale, but taste, never gonna happen, not as long as people keep telling me that lima beans taste good and they really love the flavor of liver n onions! I think the journey might provide new info for some, and validation for info that is already known or suspected!
PS I really would like to see the content and the results of your testing.
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We could probably come up with a tenderness scaled -- can hardly chew, tough, stringy, ok, cuts with a dinner knife. soft, mushy?
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I am now paying $20 for prime New York strip steaks at my local butcher was $25.
Is it worth for 2 or 3 1lb. steaks?
YES, and they cut and trim how I like them
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Years ago I had training in Marshalltown Iowa. The company always brought us to Rubes Steakhouse for the final dinner.
Always had coolers packed for my return trip. The beef is the best I've ever had !! They do ship !! Not a big company that
advertises nationally, but I guess they don't have too !!! You will not regret the order !!
https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm (https://www.rubessteaks.com/Beef_s/1834.htm)
I'd become a vegan before I'd pay that much for a single steak. :'(
I guess I don't have a problem paying for what I find as extra ordinary..... Have you been out to a good steakhouse lately ??
My last filet dinner was $60.
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I have looked at these type of companies before, but backed away after seeing the prices. I bought two prime ribeye's a few weeks ago from Sam's the first time ever and they were fantastic. But they were $18 per pound. I was able to pick out which one's I wanted. I believe the prices at these companies are more than that plus you cannot see what you buy. I want to see what I buy.
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You would probably be surprised how many people buy that stuff or buy it for customers, clients, etc. That is probably a fair price if it is top shelf meat because you probably pay $60-$75/lb for a great steak in a great steakhouse nowadays.
I guess I don't have a problem paying for what I find as extra ordinary..... Have you been out to a good steakhouse lately ??
My last filet dinner was $60.
I've never been to a place above a Texas Roadhouse/Longhorn class(to me, that's a "good" steakhouse), and I reckon I never will! I cringe when I have to pay $20 for a steak! ;)
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You would probably be surprised how many people buy that stuff or buy it for customers, clients, etc. That is probably a fair price if it is top shelf meat because you probably pay $60-$75/lb for a great steak in a great steakhouse nowadays.
I guess I don't have a problem paying for what I find as extra ordinary..... Have you been out to a good steakhouse lately ??
My last filet dinner was $60.
I've never been to a place above a Texas Roadhouse/Longhorn class(to me, that's a "good" steakhouse), and I reckon I never will! I cringe when I have to pay $20 for a steak! ;)
I didn't either until about 20+ years ago. IMO, there is a significant difference in taste and texture. I may go 1-2 times per year to celebrate something. To me it is as different as eating my own BBQ versus eating it at Chile's or Applebee's or some place like that.
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I'd become a vegan before I'd pay that much for a single steak. :'(
I guess I don't have a problem paying for what I find as extra ordinary..... Have you been out to a good steakhouse lately ??
My last filet dinner was $60.
I was referring to just buying the steak.
Eating out is completely different.
I spent about $200 once for an anniversary dinner, plus the limo.
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You would probably be surprised how many people buy that stuff or buy it for customers, clients, etc.
I suppose. It may be like the high prices to attend sporting events. Many of the ticket holders are not families but businesses that use them for business entertainment.
That is probably a fair price if it is top shelf meat because you probably pay $60-$75/lb for a great steak in a great steakhouse nowadays.
True enough, but I generally feel that I'm paying for more than just the steak. Some of it is intangible, like ambiance.
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I saw Sam's and my mind immediate went to Brisket...and I though, man, beef really has gone up! That seems like a good price to me for USDA Prime, if you have any left, next time you care off a steak, take a photo if you would be so kind. I would love to see the marbling!
I bought two prime ribeye's a few weeks ago from Sam's the first time ever and they were fantastic. But they were $18 per pound.
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I've never been to a place above a Texas Roadhouse/Longhorn class(to me, that's a "good" steakhouse), and I reckon I never will! I cringe when I have to pay $20 for a steak! ;)
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The last steakhouse I went to was Big Mike's in Orange Beach, AL. The ribeye that I paid at least $20 was bad. About a third of it was fat. I like a little fat with my steaks, but not that much.
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Bentley, here is a pic of one's that I got at Sam's last May. I prefer what is called the Delmonico steak up here which is the center of the ribeye with the fat trimmed off of the outside of the prime rib cut.
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This is a Restaurant Depot USDA Choice.
Close to your marbling?
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Yes, they look pretty close. At that time, I think it was only $10/#.
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You would probably be surprised how many people buy that stuff or buy it for customers, clients, etc.
I suppose. It may be like the high prices to attend sporting events. Many of the ticket holders are not families but businesses that use them for business entertainment.
That is probably a fair price if it is top shelf meat because you probably pay $60-$75/lb for a great steak in a great steakhouse nowadays.
True enough, but I generally feel that I'm paying for more than just the steak. Some of it is intangible, like ambiance.
A few years back (sigh getting old here) I paid about $1400 for two 50 yard line 3rd row seats in Denver for Broncos tickets. The couple next to us were family members of season ticket holders something like $180 a piece. Do I believe I got ripped off by NFL ticket exchange (well they did take their cut ...) no! It was my wifes 40th birthday, we flew in for the game. This was on her bucket list. How lucky am I to have this experience? We're not talking every day experiences. I'm ok doing something crazy expensive a few times a year ... for food experiences and BBQ experiences at home ... or concerts and games.
DK
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I had way too much fun chasing down these images from 2015. Worth every penny.
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I remember a Member on Pelletheads had season tickets to the Cowboys right after they opened the new Texas Stadium. He was selling tickets for one game he had 4, I do not believe they were great seats, 2nd level closer to end zone. This was probably 8-10 years ago and he want $430 a ticket I believe. That is when I knew my in stadium professional sports days were probably over.
I know I took my uncle to a Dodger game in 2008, one of the owners of the Insurance company I was working for had season tickets. 1st base line, about 10 rows up and they were $125 each! Seems like a bargain now!
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Tickets I had a month or so ago to an MLS soccer game in Philly were $50. Tickets I had to a punk rock concert that was outdoors general admission standing on grass were $65.
A family of four may have to pay the equivalent of a month's rent or so to go to a major sporting event or large national touring musician arena or stadium show nowadays.
I've been very fortunate to have been able to go to some big sporting events through work for free - 3 Super Bowls, 2 World Series games, a Wrestlemania, an NHL Winter Classic game at Wrigley, etc.
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If one is patient, you can score some good MLB tickets at good prices. I checked one of the reseller sites, and I can get tickets about 12 rows from the 1st base line at Busch Stadium(granted, it's a day game against the Tigers) for $19ea. + handling charges. Not bad.
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I was thinking as we cool down and go into Fall, I would be more inclined to use the Memphis Pro. I also thought to generate some content for the site I might try some food from places like Omaha Steaks and the like. I know we have had discussions about them, but to the best of my knowledge I have nevr had them and was thinking a review might be interesting. Food reviews are very subjective, but I believe you all trust my general knowledge on food and I believe I could be some what objective in certain criteria.
I relly don't know of any "food delivery" places other then Omaha. Do you all have any other suggestion of something like it? Would there be certain things you would like to see. Got a little extra cash I am will to shell out, specially when it is something I enjoy eating.
So any input would be welcome.
What did you end up doing?
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Meat has really gone up in price this summer. In April, our local Costco had prime ribeye steaks for like $21 per pound. They were over $26 this past Friday. Prime brisket is at $5.29 per pound.
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Nothing yet. Don't want to order anything till we are ready to eat it. I also thought I might use Costco beef as a control (so that recent post was a bummer). I realize that not everyone shops there, but I think it might be good to have a cut of each as a comparison.
Will start with Omaha, will probably be disappointed, but better to go in with that attitude then one of Pink Cloud mentality! Then move on the SRF, then some of the other suggestions till my bank account dries up!
Want it to cool down significantly here before I want to cook outside or even eat hot beef dinners. Probably looking at 2-4 weeks before I do anything!
What did you end up doing?
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Nothing yet. Don't want to order anything till we are ready to eat it. I also thought I might use Costco beef as a control (so that recent post was a bummer). I realize that not everyone shops there, but I think it might be good to have a cut of each as a comparison.
Will start with Omaha, will probably be disappointed, but better to go in with that attitude then one of Pink Cloud mentality! Then move on the SRF, then some of the other suggestions till my bank account dries up!
Want it to cool down significantly here before I want to cook outside or even eat hot beef dinners. Probably looking at 2-4 weeks before I do anything!
What did you end up doing?
I understand that about the prices and heat. I have not bought anything since I got the Sam's Club prime ribeye's for $18/lb. They had SRF ribeye's and they wanted $32/lb for them. The price for pork was also a lot more.
I may have to start eating choice grade steaks. I just bought two filet mignon's from a local market to try them out.
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I appreciate everyone's patience. We are going on a trip to Texas in a couple of weeks, when we return I will place the 1st order. I am not sure many folks will ever order Omaha Steaks, but I am now so committed to seeing if they are as bad as I think they are, there is no turning back! So we will hopefully get this going about the 3rd week of October!
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Really Omaha ???!?! Have you talked to your sponsor lately? 8)
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I wanna see if they are as low quality as I have been led to believe. The thing they have going for them is I have a very low expectation, not good to have any bias, but this is reality. So I will be curious as to how they stack up. I am going to buy some more Costco beef and use it as a benchmark. I am going to assume the beef from Costco will be about an 8 on my scale. So we will judge the other beef we try on that scale.
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I would say Omaha is low value versus low quality. I just found them very expensive for the level of quality that they are.
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Signing up to watch this one. Should be fun.
Al
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I'm following too.
But most of the previous comments from members have probably influenced your upcoming judging. AYE?
Perhaps many of those making comments previously don't really know have any experience in separating ----- from Shinola. Aw never mind!
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OK, let me reclarify some thoughts before members think that I'm a bit too caustic.
The most important hunk of meat for me is the beef tenderloin/filet mignon. I enjoy it for it's tenderness and lack of connective tissues. There are other cuts of meat that are more flavorful, as you are dealing with fat and connective tissues, which add much to the flavoring.
But I don't see any differences in a prime cut of beef tenderloin vs. a choice cut. How would they be graded? By the fat content. And the beef tenderloin cut is a hunk of seldom used muscle. without a significance amount of fat.
Perhaps someone could further explain the grading steps involved in the process of Choice vs. Prime, but I say there wont be any significance in tenderness and flavor once it's on the platter.
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The most important hunk of meat for me is the beef tenderloin/filet mignon. I enjoy it for it's tenderness and lack of connective tissues. There are other cuts of meat that are more flavorful, as you are dealing with fat and connective tissues, which add much to the flavoring.
But I don't see any differences in a prime cut of beef tenderloin vs. a choice cut. How would they be graded? By the fat content. And the beef tenderloin cut is a hunk of seldom used muscle. without a significance amount of fat.
Perhaps someone could further explain the grading steps involved in the process of Choice vs. Prime, but I say there wont be any significance in tenderness and flavor once it's on the platter.
I think you are correct.
Unfortunately, when the beef grader grades a side of beef hanging in the cooler, it's done by examining only the prime rib marbling. They always cut between the same two ribs, I think 7 and 8, and the grade covers the entirety of both carcass halves. How this grading carries over to cuts without intramuscular fat, like the tenderloin, will fuel a three-hour discussion.
Butchers and slaughterhouses have long recognized that grade-labeling organ meat and other portions (tails, shanks, neckbones, flank steak...) don't provide a profit increase. However, the average consumer would assign a premium to a prime tenderloin over a choice or select. So, if the consumer is happy to pay more for a prime tenderloin, the retailer is happy to collect it.
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OK, let me reclarify some thoughts before members think that I'm a bit too caustic.
The most important hunk of meat for me is the beef tenderloin/filet mignon. I enjoy it for it's tenderness and lack of connective tissues. There are other cuts of meat that are more flavorful, as you are dealing with fat and connective tissues, which add much to the flavoring.
But I don't see any differences in a prime cut of beef tenderloin vs. a choice cut. How would they be graded? By the fat content. And the beef tenderloin cut is a hunk of seldom used muscle. without a significance amount of fat.
Perhaps someone could further explain the grading steps involved in the process of Choice vs. Prime, but I say there wont be any significance in tenderness and flavor once it's on the platter.
I never did a filet mignon until I moved to Arkansas. A local grocer has them all the time wrapped with bacon. I tried it and we both loved it and it may be our choice of meat now instead of ribeye steaks. This grocer did not have a grade stamp on it so I assume it was most likely select being most of their meat is select.
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I think it may have, but to me it would be more of a positive for Omaha. It is the opposite of say a Franklin's or a Triple D where I my expectations may be much greater (and I am usually extremely disappointed). Still a bias, and not good when you are trying to impart data to other in an impartial manner!
But most of the previous comments from members have probably influenced your upcoming judging. AYE?
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Thank you for your patience!
OK, here are my thoughts. Front middle and back of the steer? Just ordered, will try and get as close to the same cuts at Costco and use them as benchmark. Stay tuned!
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I tried Omaha steaks a while back and as some have said the quality vs. cost is terrible but they were surly eatable. On my taste scale, a 6. About the same as Costco.
As for filet grade, a local grocery was selling whole filets for $7.99/lb. Thinking that this was a great deal I bought several. they turned out to be select and were nothing like the choice or prime. I peeled(trimmed) them, then smoked to 130°. they were tough and tasteless. Not worth the price. The beef broth that I made from the trimmings was great, so all was not lost.
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I do not buy much of the Prime at Costco...What would it take for a USDA Choice to be a 10 for you? I would consider Costco beef between 8-9, so interesting observation! It will be here next Friday, so the timing is good for cooking
I guess I am assuming the Omaha to be Choice Grade, not Prime.
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Years ago, I had a steak at the "Hitching Post" outside of Santa Maria, CA that I view as a 10. Taste varies person to person and I also think that it changes with age. Since my stroke nothing taste very good, so I'm not a good source for taste decisions.
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Yikes, their prices are higher than I thought they would be.
I would have a hard time paying $36/lb for sirloin or $44/lb for ribeye.
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Yeah, had to just close my eyes and click the button. This is definitely a one off! But at least we get to know 1st hand and it adds some content!
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Bentley,
I will be looking forward to your review of Omaha Steaks - both flavor and apparent grade. In looking at Omaha' site, I could not find any mention of what grade cuts they are selling.
In looking at Snake River Farms' site, they are selling American Wagyu Gold Grade Top Sirloin for $54/lb.
I doubt I will ever taste either companies' products as they are way out of my price range.
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I am very interested in this review. I have my thoughts and will look forward to how they compare to yours.
Let us know what temp you set your oven or grill at when making them, how long you cook them to, the grill temp and the internal meat temp.
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Will do, all meat, except maybe 2 of the burgers will be done on the Memphis Pro. Will note what you have asked for. May even hook up the Tappecue!