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All Things Considered => General Discussion--Food Related => Topic started by: Bentley on June 26, 2023, 04:06:21 PM

Title: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Bentley on June 26, 2023, 04:06:21 PM
This will be on going.  Never quite sure how to Review something like this, so I will just used it.  As I use it I will post some pictures and comments.  If you all have question or there are features you want to see you will let me know!  You can see the range, not sure why a Bluetooth product would ever need that range!

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Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Bentley on June 26, 2023, 04:09:42 PM
I thought these were the probes.

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Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Bentley on June 26, 2023, 04:10:55 PM
It appears they are in addition to the 4 that come with the unit!  Sweet.  Will have to ask what the difference is.  I guess the Silicon?

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Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Bentley on June 26, 2023, 04:12:09 PM
Somebody finally clued in with the magnets already on the unit!  A VERY nice feature for a user like me!

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Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Canadian John on June 26, 2023, 04:31:59 PM

 A range(distance) test would be interesting.

 The just use it approach is a good one.

 Accuracy- ice bath test would also be of interest.
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: 02ebz06 on June 26, 2023, 04:57:46 PM
I purchased some of the silicone ones.  I like that they are easier to manage when storing and they are waterproof.
Downside is the top end of the probe is a lot fatter.  Had to make the hole bigger in the side of my CampChef smoker to acomodate it.
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Bentley on June 26, 2023, 05:16:21 PM
Thank you for the suggestions, very much appreciated!
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Brushpopper on June 27, 2023, 08:21:51 AM
I'm curious about the additional probes as well.  The four that came with my Smoke are great.  The meat probe for my Pitts and Spitts went out so I just use the Smoke and keep the remote where I can hear the alarm.  I need to go read the thread on probes again so I can find an alternative. 
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: 02ebz06 on June 27, 2023, 10:41:47 AM
The magnet on the side of the receiver is a good idea.
When I got my Smokes, I made some wood bases for them, as I wasn't about to put a string in it and hang it around my neck.  They work great.
Maybe a year later I noticed that they sell plastic bases for them.

Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Bentley on June 27, 2023, 11:29:40 AM
Just got this email today!  You bet your you know what I believe in Quid Pro Quo!

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Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Canadian John on June 27, 2023, 02:57:20 PM
The magnet on the side of the receiver is a good idea.
When I got my Smokes, I made some wood bases for them, as I wasn't about to put a string in it and hang it around my neck.  They work great.
Maybe a year later I noticed that they sell plastic bases for them.
These receiver stands are great. https://www.thermoworks.com/search.php?search_query=smoke%20receiver%20stand
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: 02ebz06 on June 27, 2023, 03:07:06 PM
This is what I made.
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Hank D Thoreau on June 27, 2023, 09:32:55 PM
It looks like the box comes with the standard pro probes. The extra you got are the waterproof needle probes that are good for sous vide.

I have been testing the needle probes for a few years now and had planned on doing a review, something more than a first impression.

I went to the needed probes because they are much easier to poke into the meat and place them where you want them.

Other than ease in puncturing, the main difference is that they have a lower maximum temperature limit (500 deg for handle and cable compared to 700 deg for the High Temp Cooking Probe). This has not been a problem with the type of cooking I use them for.

The silicon insolated cable is holding up really well. I have seen no wear.

I had a set of probe failures with my original high temperature probes which I attributed to a batch issue. Thermoworks replace them and I have had no other issues. I have not had any failures among the needle probes that I use.

I recently checked the calibration of all my probes, and they are still hitting boiling temperature correctly. I have quite a few of both types including several of their Q-Series probes.

One piece of advice that tech services gave me was to try to keep water out of the probe/cable interface as much as possible and to hang the probes to dry before putting them away. I am guessing that this is less of an issue with waterproof needle version than the high temperature and ambient probes.

My conclusion after using both for at least a few years each is that I would continue to buy and use the needle probes. Pocking through some meats, especially skin, with the high temperature probes can be difficult. The high temperature probe is probably a good choice for high temperature grilling in your Egg.
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Hank D Thoreau on June 27, 2023, 09:40:15 PM
I think a key issue is the communication range. The website says it uses 915Mhz radio frequency.

It looks like a repackaged Signals with a radio interface. The original Smoke has only two probes which is a reason that I did not go that route. I want at least four probes in my main cooking unit, which the Smoke X4 has.

I generally run two ambient probes and two in the meat so I can measure the hot and cold side of the grill.

On occasion I have to leave for a while during a long cook. A key test is how far you can go without losing contact and/or control, and how well it reconnects after going out of range.

I have had some problems with my Daniel Boone where I cannot get reconnected if I leave and the connection is lost. I often swap phones with my wife if I am only leaving for short time to avoid the problem.

As far as I can tell, it is not an issue with my Thermoworks Signals (and if it was, I could power cycle it without causing harm to my cook).

Communications is the discriminating factor with the Smoke unit. I would imagine that most of the other features are solid Thermoworks quality since it probably shares the same temperature measuring technology.
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: hughver on June 28, 2023, 12:16:42 PM
I have the signal and am very satisfied with its performance. The needle probes also work better with thin products.
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Bentley on June 28, 2023, 02:01:45 PM
I like that I had the monitor unit right at eye level.  It was stared at 350° and then turned down to 225°.  Once it hit 120°, oven was turned off and the roast hit 137° by the time the oven had cooled. For me a perfect medium rare!


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Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: Hank D Thoreau on June 28, 2023, 03:36:40 PM
I have the signal and am very satisfied with its performance. The needle probes also work better with thin products.

That's true. They work well on things like chicken parts where you may not be able to get a good contact with the high temperature probe.

I also use them when I make smoke salmon and other fish. Overall, I think the needle probes are much more flexible than the high temperature probes.

The only concern I had was whether they would hold up, and they have done well, through a lot of use. I have used mine at least an average of 2 times a week for a couple of years.
Title: Re: ThermoWorks Smoke X4
Post by: hughver on June 28, 2023, 07:05:06 PM
I have six of them, had seven, but one failed.