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Mangalista pigs
« on: May 15, 2020, 12:53:27 PM »

Anyone know about these? I am interested in grabbing some Meat through a friend and he says it is the “Kobe” of pork. I love pork but it has to have fat, the stuff we normally get falls way short.
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2020, 01:20:44 PM »

Tropper is the only person I have ever known that has bought any.  He brought it to the competition in Jeffersonville, IN I thiink.  I believe there was a farm near him that raised them.  It is a breed from Hungary, valued for its fat.  I have heard of restaurants whipping the fat like cream and using it in dishes.  I heard about it when i lived in California and tried t source some.  There was a farm outside San Francisco that raised them, i wrote them, but never got a response.

I remember way back 10 to 12 years ago that Kurobuta pork, Bershire breed was all the rage in competitions.  When butts were selling for $1.49/lb, this stuff was $6/lb.  I remember getting some and thinking it was no better then the .99¢/lb stuff.  Felt the same way about the Moo-ga-lista, and it was about $12 I think!  I always expect thing have to be inline with the price i am paying.  If I am pay 4 times more, it better taste 4 times better, and it never does!

But my mind always wonders, is the stuff here like the stuff in Hungary?
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2020, 01:47:41 PM »


  The only thing I can say is to try it and see for yourself. If you don't, the wish I had ghost may haunt you.

  Then there is my taste VS yours. Do we perceive all food to be the same?
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2020, 01:57:02 PM »

Tropper is the only person I have ever known that has bought any.  He brought it to the competition in Jeffersonville, IN I thiink.  I believe there was a farm near him that raised them.  It is a breed from Hungary, valued for its fat.  I have heard of restaurants whipping the fat like cream and using it in dishes.  I heard about it when i lived in California and tried t source some.  There was a farm outside San Francisco that raised them, i wrote them, but never got a response.

I remember way back 10 to 12 years ago that Kurobuta pork, Bershire breed was all the rage in competitions.  When butts were selling for $1.49/lb, this stuff was $6/lb.  I remember getting some and thinking it was no better then the .99¢/lb stuff.  Felt the same way about the Moo-ga-lista, and it was about $12 I think!  I always expect thing have to be inline with the price i am paying.  If I am pay 4 times more, it better taste 4 times better, and it never does!

But my mind always wonders, is the stuff here like the stuff in Hungary?
I am really interested in buying some belly and I have talked to the guy and he swears that I will be amazed? It is expensive but I am pretty sure I am in. I also have to drive 2 hours to get it, add that $ to the price per #. I am waiting to hear back from them. Sure different looking, that’s for sure. My friend swears by it.
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2020, 02:21:46 PM »

I will be interested to see your photos, hear about your cooks and see what you think of the taste.
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2020, 02:59:28 PM »

I have been unable to find Mangalista pork belly here in the Phoenix area. There several farms that list them and I've emailed them for information regarding purchase.  :(
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2020, 04:21:44 PM »

Well I am going to be able to show pictures of the belly meat, 1 1/4” chops and breakfast sausage. Now the kicker, I have to wait until June. Don’t have an exact date but that is it’s locker date. She swore to me that I will be impressed, hoping so. Now I need someone to tell Gwen that we are taking a road trip. 4 hours each way !
The farm is 2 hours from us and the butcher is 2 hours further south. But suppose to have a great ma and pa diner that makes a fantastic patty melt at the sale barn. My kind of place.
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2020, 05:24:24 PM »

I was at the competition that Bentley is referring to. Trooper brought some leftover pulled pork that he made using the mentioned breed of pork. I remember it being good, but nothing that stuck out. It was though, to be fair, a leftover piece of cooked meat.

In general, I'm in Bentley's camp that I'm typically disappointed when I come across the high end meat. I don't have a large sample size, but have ordered a handful of items from snake river, creekstone, and a couple other places. I also have a cousin that raises Hereford beef, and have had his stuff pretty much farm to table.

The pork that Bentley mentioned was something I ordered from snake river. Spare ribs. They were excellent, however, barely better if any, than I get from Gordon's.

I would say go for it. It's really not that much of a time or money investment all things considered. Create your own opinion of the high end sector. I will still order from snake river when I see a special or something, but I keep my expectations at a minimum.

I think expectations and individuals are key. Are you a glass half full or glass half empty sort of person. I'm a half empty guy unfortunately. I think people build up expectations of everything they read about. If you are a half full guy, you will think it changed your universe. Half empty guy will just say "eh" and move along. Wish I was a half full guy more often.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2020, 09:10:50 PM »

I am also a half empty guy, I have been disappointed many times but somehow I am hoping for the best. I was sorely let down with 5# of grass fed and finished buffalo from a ranch 25 miles from me. Keep the buffalo and for sure you can keep grass finished anything. Not good to me at all.
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2020, 08:21:22 AM »

Have not had or even heard of these pigs. We do have a place that does berkshire I believe but I have not tried them they are maybe 45 minute drive.

I remember buying a free range chicken from a local farm, got a 6 pound chicken for 30 bucks. The girlfriend at the time thought I was nuts. She questioned if this was going to be better than the $6 chicken from the local store. I told her that this was going to be awesome, these chickens are happy and carefree they live in a coupe on wheels that gets moved to fresh areas they are free to roam and peck at their leisure. I made the chicken for dinner one Sunday and afterwards she looked at me and said well what do you think. I told her I think I wasted 24 bucks but at least I supported a local farmer. It did have a bit of a different flavor but I think I noticed it because I knew where it came from, if I were fed a free range and store bought in a blind taste test I am not sure I could pick them out.

Be interesting to see your review of the pork when you get it and make it.
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2020, 09:48:57 AM »

Have not had or even heard of these pigs. We do have a place that does berkshire I believe but I have not tried them they are maybe 45 minute drive.

I remember buying a free range chicken from a local farm, got a 6 pound chicken for 30 bucks. The girlfriend at the time thought I was nuts. She questioned if this was going to be better than the $6 chicken from the local store. I told her that this was going to be awesome, these chickens are happy and carefree they live in a coupe on wheels that gets moved to fresh areas they are free to roam and peck at their leisure. I made the chicken for dinner one Sunday and afterwards she looked at me and said well what do you think. I told her I think I wasted 24 bucks but at least I supported a local farmer. It did have a bit of a different flavor but I think I noticed it because I knew where it came from, if I were fed a free range and store bought in a blind taste test I am not sure I could pick them out.

Be interesting to see your review of the pork when you get it and make it.
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2020, 12:49:09 PM »

To me, the chops will probably shine the most.  Assuming it is like a Heritage breed and will have the 70's and 80's marbeling before that "Other White Meat" marketing killed pork chops.  The sausage & belly, well I consider you a friend and you will not think less of me for speaking my mind.  Sausage to me is all about seasoning, but...I have to say, would I rather have a ground brisket burger or a ground Prime Rib burger, I think we all know the answer.  The belly, well again, since it is going to be cured is the grade/quality really matter, although, as I said, this breed is prized for its fat, and waht is good bacon!

And besides, in all reality, I am wrong 85% of the time, so it's in your favor that you will love it!    :pig:
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Re: Mangalista pigs
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2020, 01:13:38 PM »

Have not had or even heard of these pigs. We do have a place that does berkshire I believe but I have not tried them they are maybe 45 minute drive.

I remember buying a free range chicken from a local farm, got a 6 pound chicken for 30 bucks. The girlfriend at the time thought I was nuts. She questioned if this was going to be better than the $6 chicken from the local store. I told her that this was going to be awesome, these chickens are happy and carefree they live in a coupe on wheels that gets moved to fresh areas they are free to roam and peck at their leisure. I made the chicken for dinner one Sunday and afterwards she looked at me and said well what do you think. I told her I think I wasted 24 bucks but at least I supported a local farmer. It did have a bit of a different flavor but I think I noticed it because I knew where it came from, if I were fed a free range and store bought in a blind taste test I am not sure I could pick them out.

Be interesting to see your review of the pork when you get it and make it.
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