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Wet Cure for Bacon
« on: January 19, 2018, 06:54:59 PM »

Hi All:

I came across this recipe from Alton Brown and it looks to be pretty good. I just bought a 5 pound pork belly and I want to cure it.

foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/scrap-iron-chefs-bacon-recipe-1939446

I followed the thread on dry curing but I think I want to go with wet.
I welcome all input good or bad about his method (other than the protein box of a cold smoker).
I hope to do this next week so I can smoke it on Saturday.
Thanks for your input.

Bob
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 10:55:33 PM »

I guess I should try some non nitrate bacon and see what I think about it, so I have no input for you there.  I certainly have never cured a belly for just 3 days, so I have no input for you there.  I guess what I mean is I have no idea what it will taste like, that is 1/3 the time I use.  Even with a fan, I am not sure you can form the pellicle in one hour, but maybe you can.  Has never been a big part of my cold smoking anyway.  And I would go about 8-12 hours in a cold smoke, but hey, 6 is very nice!
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2018, 09:03:06 AM »

Thanks Bent. I was thinking along the same lines on time.
I got a good deal on the belly so I think I will try Alton's way.
If it doesn't taste good, I can do like you did and grind it for sausage.
No loss either way. I will post my progress and results.
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2018, 04:42:46 PM »

Maybe cut off a 1lb. piece and if not to your liking...just put the rest back in the brine for a few more days.
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2018, 01:08:42 PM »

That recipe is.... bizarre.  I personally would not make it...

By my calulations,  the salt ammount in relation to brine/meat  is around 1.2%  . Which is not nearly enough to really retard growth of various bacteria during 6 hours of time spent in the danger zone...   you may live to tell us how it tastes if you do try it... but I for one won't try it.

On thing I could pretty much guarantee is that the results won't be too salty after just 3 days of brining at that level of salt content.

Add about 0.44 ounces of cure #1 in the brine and another 3 days with the belly in the brine and you'll be much more likely to live to tell us how it tastes...

I'm surprised Alton can get a recipe like that past foodnetwork  lawyers.
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2018, 06:14:59 PM »

I already think I am going to 5 days in brine. How much TenderQuick should I add to stay alive?
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2018, 06:50:06 PM »

1/2 cup in a brine will keep you safe, buy you have then added virtually a half cup more salt.  TQ has .5% both sodium nitrate and sodium nitrite in it and the rest is salt and sugar (yes there is a little propylene glycol).  So it is 12 times less potent then say Modern Cure #1 which has 6.5% nitrite in it and the rest salt.

So you would be best to cut your salt in half for the recipe.
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2018, 08:14:00 PM »

Thanks. I use TQ because I got a great deal on it from Amazon about a year age.
I got 6 Two pound bags for the price of 1. They have strange deals like that sometimes.
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 06:42:29 PM »

OK. Done and tasted. Wife said it tastes very good. I am not big on salty things but I think it could have used a touch more salt or maybe more brine time.
Here is what I did-

1 cup sugar
1/2 cup salt
1/2 cup Morton's TQ
8 ounces molasses
1/2 gallon (2 quarts) water
1/2 gallon (2 quarts) apple cider
2 tablespoons course ground black pepper
1 (5 pound) piece raw pork belly center cut

In a large non-reactive pot, bring half the water,  sugar, salt, TQ and molasses to a boil. Stir to dissolve the sugar. Pour into a large container with the remaining water, and the apple cider. Place in the refrigerator and cool to 40 degrees F.

Press the black pepper into the pork belly. Once the brine has cooled place the peppered pork belly into the mixture until completely submerged. Refrigerate for five days. Turn over in brine each day.

After five days have passed, remove the pork from the brine and pat dry with paper towels. Lay on a rack over a sheet pan and place in front of a fan for 1 hour to form a pellicle. Lay the pork in a cold smoker and smoke for 4 to 6 hours. Chill the meat in the freezer for 1 hour to stiffen for easy slicing into strips of bacon. Slice what you need and keep the remainder in a freezer safe bag in the refrigerator or freezer.

Place the strips of bacon onto a sheet pan fitted with a rack and place into a cold oven. Turn the oven to 400 degrees F and cook for about 12 to 15 minutes, depending on how crispy you like your bacon. Remove from rack and drain on paper towels. Enjoy.

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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2018, 08:51:26 PM »

That is a great looking pork belly, Bob! Nice and meaty.
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2018, 09:32:27 PM »

Very Fine job!
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 10:11:32 AM »

OK. Done and tasted. Wife said it tastes very good. I am not big on salty things but I think it could have used a touch more salt or maybe more brine time.
Here is what I did-

1 cup sugar
1/2 cup salt
1/2 cup Morton's TQ
8 ounces molasses
1/2 gallon (2 quarts) water
1/2 gallon (2 quarts) apple cider
2 tablespoons course ground black pepper
1 (5 pound) piece raw pork belly center cut

In a large non-reactive pot, bring half the water,  sugar, salt, TQ and molasses to a boil. Stir to dissolve the sugar. Pour into a large container with the remaining water, and the apple cider. Place in the refrigerator and cool to 40 degrees F.

Press the black pepper into the pork belly. Once the brine has cooled place the peppered pork belly into the mixture until completely submerged. Refrigerate for five days. Turn over in brine each day.

After five days have passed, remove the pork from the brine and pat dry with paper towels. Lay on a rack over a sheet pan and place in front of a fan for 1 hour to form a pellicle. Lay the pork in a cold smoker and smoke for 4 to 6 hours. Chill the meat in the freezer for 1 hour to stiffen for easy slicing into strips of bacon. Slice what you need and keep the remainder in a freezer safe bag in the refrigerator or freezer.

Place the strips of bacon onto a sheet pan fitted with a rack and place into a cold oven. Turn the oven to 400 degrees F and cook for about 12 to 15 minutes, depending on how crispy you like your bacon. Remove from rack and drain on paper towels. Enjoy.

Sure looks good...

  I'm surprised you didn't think it was salty enough...   by my calculations you were using roughly 4.2% salt  ( one cup salt roughly 10.4 ounces , 1.25 gallons of liquids weighing about 10.4 pounds + 5 pounds of meat ( total of 246.4 ounces of liquid+meat )).   Now, I know some salt weighs a lot less per cup, so it's hard to know exactly what the actual numbers are... 

  What may have been going on is that it seems to me you used about 4 times more sugar than I do...  perhaps the sweet was covering up the 'salt'.   This is the first time I've ever tried to calculate out the sugar content in a bacon recipe with molasses in it...  but Google says there are 252 grams of sugar in a cup of Molasses.. Google also says there are 200 grams of sugar in a cup of sugar, so by my calculations you used roughly 452 grams of sugar, which is about 15.9 ounces of sugar... and my calculations say that's about 6.4% sugar    ( I typically use just 1.5% sugar in my bacon ).

   Anyway, it really does look great and I'm not trying to be critical, just giving you my own analysis of your current recipe...  and trying to figure out why it's not salty enough for your tastes...  ( take my advice with a grain of salt :) )    but I'd try using less sugar , rather than more salt...  or lowering both down to something closer to 2% salt, 1.5% sugar...    Oh, and you also could very well be correct that waiting longer could help get more salt into the meat...
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 01:47:14 PM »

LSJ. I think you are onto something with the sugar. I didn't even think about the sweetness from the molasses. Thanks for the input. I will try this again. 1/4 cup sugar and a few more days in the brine. I think I will make some burnt ends with part of it.
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 03:07:52 PM »

I don't know if you cut back on the slat since I told you the TQ was primarily that and sugar...if you did, I may have screwed you with that advice...
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Re: Wet Cure for Bacon
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2018, 01:05:57 PM »

You did not screw me with your advice. I am responsible for all my own decisions and I think I did the right thing.
If wife likes it; it was a success. End of story.
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