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Porchetta Anyone?
« on: December 02, 2018, 11:43:29 PM »

Just curious if anyone has advice and or tips on Porchetta. I have never tried it, but it looks like it could be good. My son found a butcher shop on a hog farm that is supposed to have nice pork belly. Haven't stopped in yet, but will check it out soon. May try to do a test run soon to see if it is worth doing for a Christmas party in a few weeks.

Probably one of the biggest question I have at this point is skin on or off?
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 07:06:46 AM »

Porchetta?  A roasted deboned piglet?

It's generally fare for a rather large group.
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2018, 09:15:09 AM »

Do you mean pancetta?
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 09:50:25 AM »

Do you mean pancetta?

I was looking at recipes that call for a pork loin to be wrapped inside a pork belly.
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 03:58:06 PM »

I did not know it was a pork loin inside a belly, I always thought it was just a stuffed loin that is roasted.  But with so many different regions in Italy, there are probably many different takes!  I have wanted to do it and pancetta but just never get around to it!
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2018, 04:17:46 PM »

But with so many different regions in Italy, there are probably many different takes!  I have wanted to do it and pancetta but just never get around to it!


I am finding out that the more recipes I look at, the more ways there are to do it.

Looks like I will do a test run on Friday. I think I am leaning toward trying it with the skin on and see how that works.
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2018, 04:24:47 PM »

But with so many different regions in Italy, there are probably many different takes!

That must be the case, 'cause the only time I've had it, it was at an Italian gathering.  It was a whole roasted piglet.  It probably varies.
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2018, 09:37:00 PM »

Porchetta?  A roasted deboned piglet?

It's generally fare for a rather large group.


I did a little digging and from what I can tell, what you have described is the traditional, authentic Italian prochetta. However, it is also defined as a savory, fatty, moist pork roast. I think that would account for the wide variety of ways it is made.

The recipe that I found was by Malcolm Reed. It calls for a wet brine overnight and wrapping the tenderloin in the pork belly with an assortment of herbs and a dry rub. What's not to like!
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2018, 01:04:59 AM »

But with so many different regions in Italy, there are probably many different takes!  I have wanted to do it and pancetta but just never get around to it!


I am finding out that the more recipes I look at, the more ways there are to do it.

Looks like I will do a test run on Friday. I think I am leaning toward trying it with the skin on and see how that works.


From my trips to Italy, Porchetta is definitely more of a Rome/Lazio thing and is typically a pig/piglet. 

Now, I think the other recipes you are seeing are people trying to replicate the Porchetta experience on a smaller scale for the home cook.   Most people don't have easy access to getting/storing a pig, so they make do the pork belly and loin,  and even if the did, they would not have a cooking surface large enough for a pig.    Also most people aren't doing large family gatherings that may warrant a whole pig.   So, I look at the belly/loin recipes as "doing what you can with what you got".    You'll still end up with a very tasty pork product, even if it's not officially porchetta.    It will still be delish! 
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2018, 09:04:40 PM »

I did a test run yesterday on the home sized prochetta. There were several things that din't quite go the way I thought they would, but overall the results were good. My son found the butcher shop where we got the pork belly, I have never been there. It is a third generation family farm where they butcher and sell their own hogs, what's not to like! I called, asked if the had pork belly, they said yes and told me how much per lb. I told them I wanted around 5 lbs. with skin on and just assumed it would be fresh. My son comes back with a 3 lb. piece of frozen and skinless pork belly that was only about 8" square. It was a lot fattier than I was looking for and was not big enough to wrap around the tenderloin.

I ended up butterflying it, which actually did not turn out to be too bad of a way to do it. Used a pork rub on the tenderloin and the pork belly. I blended together fresh parsley, basil, thyme, rosemary, garlic, and ground chestnuts in a magic bullet for the inside of the belly. Tied it together and went a couple of hours at around 375.

For compairison, I also did a stuffed pork loin with spinach, mushrooms, onions, garlic, ground cheastnuts, and smoked gouda cheese. It turned out very nice, but of the people that sampled the food, they all like the prochetta better. So it looks like I will make a few modifications (and a more detailed talk with the butcher) and go for broke in another week. My phone died, so I hope to post pictures tomorrow.
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2018, 09:29:24 PM »

why the chestnuts?

And, thanks for the update and your experience experimenting.
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2018, 10:51:21 PM »

why the chestnuts?

I used the chestnuts mainly because I had them. A friend of mine has a chestnut tree and gave me a big bag. The first batch I smoked I oversmoked and they got real hard. I threw them in the magic bullet and ground them up. I've been adding them to a lot of different things, I like them in green beans, stir fry and other veggies. I had never tried them before and I really liked them, the taste was very unique.
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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2018, 01:56:34 PM »

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For better or worse, here are a few pictures of my attempt at prochetta.



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Re: Porchetta Anyone?
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2018, 11:29:56 AM »

JD, that looks like a good first run.
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