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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #105 on: December 09, 2018, 11:55:28 AM »
And they gave it to his as a punt returner!
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #106 on: December 09, 2018, 04:52:38 PM »
Well, if you look at the trophy the guy has a ball in one hand and the other giving a stiff arm. I suppose it could go to a defender who either 1) picked up a lot of fumbles or 2) made a lot of interceptions and was headed the other way (now on offense).
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #107 on: December 09, 2018, 09:05:39 PM »
Football's a team sport where most players have to submerge their identities into the team identity.  But there are positions where the players' contributions are more noticeable.  Of the linemen, it's easier to notice the defensive linemen's contributions.

Other team sports look more like a gathering of individual sports.  Volleyball stands out in particular.
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #108 on: December 09, 2018, 09:24:46 PM »
Well as usual there are always those who are critical of the method of choice.  Many winners have not had a 100% winning record, i.e. Lamar Jackson, and Baker Mayfield. And many times the Heisman winner does not win his bowl game.  There is more to the judging than just difficulty of schedule and winning record.  The judges are a large group of 870 Sports Writers  in 6 regions of US (145 in each region).  These are folks who are professionals at viewing and sifting the performances of NCAA teams and players.  There were 58 or so living past Heisman winners that each get 1 vote. So about 929 +- voters are involved.  Each voter can vote 1st, 2nd or 3rd place for eligible players.  1st place vote is 3 points, 2nd place is 2 points, and 3rd place is 1 point.
Murray had 517 first place votes and enough 2nd, and 3rd place votes for a total of 2167 votes. 3rd all time highest vote.
Tagovailoa had a total of 1891 votes for second.  The highest 2nd place total in all the 84 yrs.
Murray had 276 more points that Tua.  Thats it.
Now the Orange bowl will decide which is the best team on that day of Dec. 29, 2018, and the quarterbacks will have a lot to do with that, but so will a lot of others, --on both teams.  The odds are against the Sooners, and rightfully so. But we shall see. I think if you watch this game (barring freak accidents, and bad breaks etc) you will be amazed at both teams. And even if Tua is unable, then Jalen Hurt will be lead his team well as he did last week.  If the Sooners lose, they will not be "crushed" IMHO.  My prediction: None.
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #109 on: December 09, 2018, 09:31:05 PM »
Yes there have been defensive nominees.  1986 Bryan Bosworth (the Boz) was nominated and finished in 4th place behind Vinny Testaverde, Paul Palmer, and Jim Harbaugh.  He was that good (or better) but had personal problems to overcome, which he has done!
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #110 on: December 10, 2018, 07:51:23 AM »
Yes, I know there have been defensive players nominated, but -- to be a bit blunt -- so what?  Do you remember who finished 4th at the Indy 500 even two years ago?  And, good grief, let's not get started with Johnny Manzel's personal problems but he still won. It is an award meant not only for offensive players, but really backs and receivers.  Fine, just say so.  Don't make it appear you have picked the best in college football.

And as for those picking, I would love to know how many of those sportswriters who are in a non-Pacific zone are staying up until 1 am to watch a college football game on a consistent basis?  The West Coast and Mountain time zone teams consistently get crummy times for the start of their games -- not a whole lot of folks willing to watch games with a 10:30 pm start time.
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #111 on: December 27, 2018, 11:50:49 PM »
Congrats to The University of Minnesota for laying a whoopin on Georgia Tech!
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #112 on: December 28, 2018, 12:36:36 PM »
Quote from: Bentley on December 27, 2018, 11:50:49 PM
Congrats to The University of Minnesota for laying a whoopin on Georgia Tech!

And to the Wisconsin Badgers for laying a whoopin' on the Canes. 

Go Big Ten!

Trooper's Spartans have a game coming up on Monday.  Any other Big Ten supporters here?

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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #113 on: December 28, 2018, 05:09:10 PM »
Go Orange!
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #114 on: December 28, 2018, 05:14:35 PM »
Congrats to Auburn for a big whooping on Purdue (63 to 14).  !!!!!!
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #115 on: December 28, 2018, 05:28:59 PM »
They certainly did. I was afraid of that.
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #116 on: December 29, 2018, 09:33:18 AM »
West Virginia is no threat without Will Greer.  Money talks louder than  honor!  Win lose or draw, I will always respect Kyler Murray for going ahead for the the Sooners this year, and especially staying aboard for the Orange Bowl.
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #117 on: December 29, 2018, 10:31:26 AM »
And the Pac12 FINALLY gets a bowl win via the Cougars of WSU.  :cool:
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #118 on: December 29, 2018, 04:05:27 PM »
And yet another Big Ten team bites the dust.
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Re: FINALLY -- the Return of College Football
« Reply #119 on: December 29, 2018, 04:44:09 PM »
Sorry about that Z, but I thought Michigan was overrated all year.
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