I watched the chef testing the HexClad against his $20 pan and the $200 pan. First off, he did not comment on whether he seasoned the HexClad as directed. Probably important, since the HexClad video specifically said to do this. In view of pmillen's very trustworthy and extensive testing and use, I would tend to view the chef's report with suspicion. So my conclusion is that these pans are great for those of us (which I am one) who want a good pan, with minimal preparation and care requirements. I think I have rarely seen a pan that was just as good at 21 months as when new, so I am impressed. Thanks for the info.