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Electric Pressure Cooker
« on: October 22, 2018, 07:28:40 AM »

Anyone have a Instant Pot?     I got one recently... I have mixed feelings about it I guess,  but for some things, it seems to be very nice to have.   

Some things...     Broth, from scratch...   No soak Beans...   Eggs?  ( jury is still out for me on these ).   I suppose any kind of thin soup...

 I'm a relative novice with one,  had some "BURN" indications, which really are annoying.

    I'm considering buying a 8 quart one now, and returning the 6 Quart I bought, because I there's a good deal on the 'Ultra 8 quart', basically can get it for the same price as I had paid for the 6 quart of lesser class of Instant Pot.  I had bought the Nova Plus, from Costco, so it would be very easy to return..    The Ultra , apparently has some ability to do Sous Vide ( which I've been wanting to try ), and a few other features that the Nova Plus doesn't have... as well as I had originally wanted the 8 quart anyway, but they were just to darn expensive to get me to jump on one.


Anyway, I'm curious about what others think of the Instant Pot, or other similar electric pressure cookers.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2018, 07:35:28 AM »

Hey LSJ,
I use a pressure cooker on occasions, but I don't have the electric version.
I'll be watching for your usual keen analysis/Very good decision to move to the 8 quart size.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2018, 07:39:20 AM »

So far, one of the most useful things I've found the Instant Pot for is turning a pound of dry beans into something soft and tasty in about a hour...

This weekend I took some of those quickly made beans and turned them into slow smoked baked beans on my GMG Davy Crockett.  ( ironic isn't it )

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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2018, 08:11:47 AM »

Hey LSJ,
I use a pressure cooker on occasions, but I don't have the electric version.
I'll be watching for your usual keen analysis/Very good decision to move to the 8 quart size.

   I've never owned a pressure cooker before, not a real one, nor a Instant Pot type.      Funny is, one of the original reasons I was interested in a Instant Pot, or taking the 'risk' on giving one a try, was because I had some hopes of maybe some day doing small scale home canning, you know , the type that requires a pressure cooker to get things hot enough to kill stuff like botulinum spores.   Well, as it turns out, apparently a Instant Pot won't actually get that hot, or is not capable of consistent enough pressure to insure that it would get hot enough to be totally safe.   Even after coming to that realization, I did bite the bullet on one ( in part because I bought it at Costco and knew if I really wasn't happy I could return it.).

   Making beans alone , from scratch , is so easy, it's almost worth the price of admission , just to be able to cook dry beans to a point where they are really good in not much more than an hour.    I have done this several times now, and I'm really impressed with how well it works.   In the past, I'd resorted to just buying caned beans, and then doctoring them up.  Well, with the Instant Pot, i can make them taste, like truly amazing, right out of the cooker.  I used my own home made chicken ( and even pork ) broth, instead of water... add a few cloves of garlic, some onion, a bay leaf, a tiny bit of salt...  Turn it on, and walk away...   I can eat the darn things right like that, and I'm generally not a huge fan of beans that aren't really jazzed up with stuff.

   Broth is crazy easy too, especially with a pellet grill handy.   I found these pork 'riblets' , which essentially were some pork rib trimmings that they sold off sepperatately for like $0.99/lb.     I ate all the good meaty parts myself, but the parts that had too much cartilage or bone... after they were smoked, I dumped them in the Instant Pot, with a couple chopped up carrots, couple stalks of celery , a onion cut into 8ths ( skin on it still), a few smashed up cloves of garlic... a wee bit of salt, and of course a lot of water... turn it on, walk away...    later drain off all the solids... Um, yum yum...    ( Still probably cheaper to go buy bullion , but hey, you can make it taste anyway you want )

   I've made Chicken and dumplings , using my own home made broth, etc...   although one time I got this "BURN" indicator, that basically tells you, you've got burnt stuff on the bottom of the inner pot, and it's not heating up correctly and is in danger of making your whole pot of food taste all burnt.   The other time I made it, I didn't get that...  The BURN message , really is annoying, because your usually about 15 or 20 minutes into your attempt to make something, and then have to figure out how to deal with it...   But , the whole "BURN" issue, could be a separate topic all by itself.

Anyway,    I do have mixed feelings about this whole Instant Pot thing...   Some people make them out to be , the perfect tool for anything you want  to do in the kitchen.   And often the times that people give on how long it takes to cook something, is really deceiving ( because they don't tell you about having to wait for the pressure to release, or how long it takes to build up pressure )    Some of the group discussions I've seen on Facebook, then to be REALLY lop sided... people with these , making them out to be the greatest kitchen tool ever... ( some making Rib in them, touting them to be the greatest ribs ever. :) )     I'm hoping I could find real people who aren't afraid to admit that these things aren't magic, and who are willing to discuss , how they overcome any problems that they encounter...
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2018, 10:35:35 AM »

I have a Cuisinart electric pressure cooker, like you I have mixed feelings about it.    It’s great for some things, meh for others.    Like you said, great for making broths and stock, and I love being able to make a pot of chicken noodle soup using frozen chicken pieces in 1.5 hrs, and it makes the most tender corned beef I’ve ever made in under 2hrs.    I can see the appeal for busy households when you are in a rush to get a home cooked meal in a short time after work.   In hind sight, I should have done some research and checked out the combo pressure cooker/slow cookers to see if it was a viable option.    Don’t use either of them real often, but if I had one unit that did both things it would be easier to justify, not that they are expensive, more of a space consideration.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2018, 10:46:26 AM »

We have an insta-pot.  Frankly, the only thing I like it for is boiled eggs, they peel flawlessly every time.  It ruins meat, it turns it chalky.  It did do a creamy noodle dish okay, but overall, not worth the money for our house.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2018, 10:51:01 AM »

I too have the Cuisinart electric pressure cooker (was $69 at Costco), and mostly use it for beans/chili. In 75 minutes  have butter soft beans (of whatever kind) with no soaking, and if I add seeded dried chiles, meat, and seasonings, a great one pot chili that is waiting for me warm when I come home. My mother gave me an old German family recipe for white beans, potatoes, and smoked pork hocks that also takes only 75 minutes in the pressure cooker. I remember her cooking the dish all day.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2018, 11:44:25 AM »

I have 2 of electric pressure cookers, and use them more than my slow cooker. things I like them for are Rice, Beef Stew, country style ribs seasoned and sauced, chicken legs or thighs seasoned and toss in a bottle of your favorite hot sauce. I have made mac n cheese in it once, need to work more on it and lasagna. Made a piece of ham in it and was good used store bought pot pie squares, need to figure out how to make real ones.

I like to put in some brown rice, cubed up chicken breast, fajita seasoning and the water needed for the rice do it for 9 or 10 minutes then stir in a couple of cups of medium salsa.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 11:51:29 AM »

Hah, I must be more hooked then I thought... I did go ahead and place a order for a 8 Quart "Ultra" version , after I learned you can indeed set the temperature manually.   I'm gonna return the 6 Quart that I have now. All goes well, I'll take my first crack at some 'Sous Vide' in the Ultra by Wednesday.

I've seen people 'bake' potatoes and rave about them...  but to me, you can't bake a potato in steam, anymore than you can grill chicken in steam
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2018, 12:00:18 PM »

We have an insta-pot.  Frankly, the only thing I like it for is boiled eggs, they peel flawlessly every time.  It ruins meat, it turns it chalky.  It did do a creamy noodle dish okay, but overall, not worth the money for our house.

Chalky meat?    How on earth would that happen? 

I'm pretty sure I can find enough uses for the Instant Pot, that it's worth the price.   But I certainly don't ever foresee me being one that would consider it as my first choice for cooking dinner.

Although I must say that I've made Chicken and Dumplings twice in my Instant pot, and it had been like 40 years since I had Chicken & Dumplings... my first batch wasn't that great, at least I didn't think so.  My daughter liked it though.   My main problem with the first batch, was I used too much dried thyme, but also had made dumpling dough using some Bisquick that I had sitting in my pantry for who knows how long...  The dumplings were damp and dense, not good at all.   The next  time I made the Chicken & Dumplings, I used some fresh thyme, and used some caned refrigerated biscuits for dumplings... these were REALLY good.  Reminded me of when I was a kid and my mom made Chicken and Dumplings.    So, I do know you can make some pretty good stuff in a Instant Pot.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 12:22:10 PM »

I haven't touched my stove top pressure cooker since getting an Instant Pot. It doesn't do any more than the stove top version, but is more convenient because of the built in timer. We use it all the time. Here are a few things we often do with it.

Poached eggs
Egg Bites
Flan
Pozole
Beef Stew
Brown Rice
Risotto
Tikka Masala
Yogurt
Chicken and Dumplings

I don't use our slow cooker, or the slow cooker function on the IP anymore. Pressure cooking results in much juicier meat than slow cooking.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2018, 12:22:56 PM »

We have an insta-pot.  Frankly, the only thing I like it for is boiled eggs, they peel flawlessly every time.  It ruins meat, it turns it chalky.  It did do a creamy noodle dish okay, but overall, not worth the money for our house.

Chalky meat?    How on earth would that happen? 

I'm pretty sure I can find enough uses for the Instant Pot, that it's worth the price.   But I certainly don't ever foresee me being one that would consider it as my first choice for cooking dinner.

Although I must say that I've made Chicken and Dumplings twice in my Instant pot, and it had been like 40 years since I had Chicken & Dumplings... my first batch wasn't that great, at least I didn't think so.  My daughter liked it though.   My main problem with the first batch, was I used too much dried thyme, but also had made dumpling dough using some Bisquick that I had sitting in my pantry for who knows how long...  The dumplings were damp and dense, not good at all.   The next  time I made the Chicken & Dumplings, I used some fresh thyme, and used some caned refrigerated biscuits for dumplings... these were REALLY good.  Reminded me of when I was a kid and my mom made Chicken and Dumplings.    So, I do know you can make some pretty good stuff in a Instant Pot.

Maybe chalky was not the right description, but when meat gets dry, it almost squeaks when chewing and is hard to swallow.  Specially chicken breasts.  I did not even care for the thighs that came out of it and they can take more cooking.  Just personal preference, but I would take the crock pot slow cook any day over the pressure cooker.  Everything comes out tasting the same and the vegetables are mush, I like tender crisp.....My wife heard about the baked potatoes and tried them out, but again, they did not pass the test compared to conventional.  Specially considering they were no faster than throwing them in the oven by the time everything comes up to temp and cooks.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2018, 12:38:54 PM »

>Maybe chalky was not the right description, but when meat gets dry,
>it almost squeaks when chewing and is hard to swallow.

I've never experienced that. Sounds to me like it was overcooked.  For me, meat stays much juicier than with slow cooking. One mistake folks often make is putting everything in the pressure cooker at the same time. Vegetables cook much faster than meat, so you do need to add the veggies later in the process. Veggies retain color and vitamins much better than when stewed or slow cooked.
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2018, 04:43:17 PM »

We got one.   SWMBO has a recipe called "chili chicken".   Ain't got nothin to do with chili but it does have salsa so maybe....anyway, when she did it in the instant pot, it came out runnier than all get out.   It was fast but by the time we took the lid off and reduced it down a little, it didn't save any time at all.   Does rice really nice too.
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Re: Electric Pressure Cooker
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2018, 05:08:31 PM »

I bought an Instant Pot and the only thing I’ve cooked so far in it is Chili and my wife made a stuffed pepper soup. It’s nice to cook a batch of chili in 45 mins or so versus slow cooking all day. Had all these plans for other things like chicken, but just never get around to trying it in there.
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