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For your stove top, do you prefer gas or electricity?

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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2019, 01:00:04 PM »

There is radiant heat glass top and induction heat glass top.  For induction, you have to use only certain pans.  I had radiant heat glass top in Pasadena for 15 years and loved it. Never any issues with pans.  Would love to have an induction.
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2019, 03:07:50 PM »

Love this thread. We had a gas stove in our old house for 12+ years after cooking on the old coil electric before. I loved it. Our current house has a radiant glass/ceramic topic electric that is builder grade and over ten years old now. I'm suspecting that it's not going to last too much longer as a couple of the burners don't seem to get as hot as they did and the switch on the 2 size burner doesn't always work. My wife has asked if we can switch to gas when we do replace it. What's funny is she will admit that she rarely cooks and she usually cleans up after I make a mess on it. So, I know gas is better than radiant electric since it's much more difficult to clean.

However, I've been eyeing induction for a while because I don't want to mess with gas lines myself or pay $500-1000 to have it piped into the kitchen for a stove. I replaced our old pans with multi-ply clad stainless a couple years ago. We still need a couple induction compatible ceramic skillets though, but those usually only last a couple years for us. Now, I just ordered an induction countertop burner to see how we like it. I had no idea they made such a thing until this thread came along. It will allow me to try it for $75 versus buying a $1000 range and potentially not liking it. Plus, I can use it outside by the grills if I want.
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2019, 03:34:59 PM »

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 Only reasons I'm not 100% ready to switch from Gas to Induction are...    I can get higher BTU output from my gas stove than I can with most induction burners.    And, if I lift a pan off a gas stove burner by a inch or two, the pan doesn't instantly start to cool,  with induction , if you lift the pan off the surface by even one inch, the pan starts to cool very very quickly.   So, I still prefer gas for some cooking. I love induction, but not for everything.

I question your first comment. Not so much about BTU output necessarily, but the heat that actually makes it into the pan. Almost 1/2 of the BTUs of a gas burner don't even heat the pan. The only way a gas range even might come close to induction is if you are comparing the highest BTU gas range against a 120V induction hob, which is not exactly apples to apples. Otherwise you will be hard pressed to find a gas burner that will put as much heat into a pan compared to a 240V induction hob. Everything I have ever seen or used myself, induction will boil the same amount of water in about 1/2 the time compared to any gas burner. Theoretically, a 240V induction hob can put almost twice as much heat into a pan than any gas burner, if it can boil water in 1/2 the time. I have yet to see a single comparison that puts gas faster than induction, but you can find induction beating gas all day long. Your second point is correct, although it does not affect me the way I cook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h45dzeugIZw

https://blog.yaleappliance.com/induction-or-professional-gas-range-what-is-faster

http://blog.us.schott.com/boiling-point-putting-induction-electric-and-gas-to-the-test/

https://blog.yaleappliance.com/fastest-way-to-sear-a-steak-induction-vs-gas


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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2019, 03:38:21 PM »

I bought the Jenn-air Scholl Ceran . The down draft is excellent for catching food and grease. You need a arm the diameter of broom stick to try to clean out. Also the engineering genesis put two of the burners so close to the control knobs your not able to put pans centered over heating elements. Therese a 10% heating loss right off the bat.
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2019, 04:46:12 PM »

I am curious whether anyone has researched the cost difference between using natural gas versus electric ranges (radiant or induction).  I have no data on cost per BTU between them, but I've always been led to believe natural gas is a much cheaper energy source.  Not sure it would make a huge difference in choice for cooking.

It really depends on what you pay for gas vs. electricity, but I think gas without a pilot light will be cheaper. Gas is generally cheaper to purchase (almost an absolute) and operate (more often than not but depends on your location). In the link below is a calculator where you punch in what you pay for each and how often you cook and it tells you how much you will pay annually for whichever one you choose. An induction range will be a little more efficient than an electric range so it would be a little less than what this web site would say for electric, but any way you look at it you are more than likely paying pennies a day for either.

I looked at the calculator on the page again and induction is listed at the bottom of the electric side of the chart...

https://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/gas.html
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2019, 08:30:14 AM »

I'm not trying to say that no induction cooktops are capable of heating a pan hotter than my gas range.   All I'm saying , is that the induction cooktop that I have, isn't capable of heating my cooking pans up as hot as I can on my gas range.   

 The cooktop I use, is a countertop model, it plugs into a 15 amp, 120 volt outlet, it's NOT high power , and I don't need it to be, because I only use it for simmering, and occasionally boiling water.  The only reason I use it to boil water on those occasions, is because I'm boiling 9 quarts of water, and it takes roughly 45 minutes to boil that water, since the induction cooktop I'm using has a timer and will shut itself off if I forget I had started the large pot of water.

 
    The main reason, I won't likely every be converted from gas burners, is because  I very much prefer the way heat is distributed for high temperature cooking, using my gas range.    My wife and I use a wok on a daily basis, it has a curved bottom ( although this one we use does have a small flat spot).   A induction burner, would not heat up around the edges of the wok, nor would any traditional electric burner.  So, I actually make use of the fact that all the heat from a flame doesn't make 100% direct transfer of heat to the exact spot it first touches the metal pan.  This is actually a highly and desired feature for the way I cook on a daily basis.    In Taiwan, from where my wife is from,  many people actually have special gas burners, just for a wok.  My wife and I had considered such a thing for our home here in the USA, but decided that having a reasonably high quality semi-professional gas range, would work well enough for our needs.

    So, honestly I don't care about efficiency of heat transfer from my gas burners. What I do care about, is that they put out enough heat to do what I want, and because they are gas, and the flames rise up above the burners, I can move my pan around, and it still stays hot, or I can raise it up , and make some short term adjustments to how hot the pan is, etc...    I find gas a very desirable cooking heat source for a variety of reason.   

    By the way, my current stove has 4 burners that are each rated at 18,000 BTU, and these provide all the heat I or my wife needs for any cooking we do on the stove top.    As much as I like induction for low temperature cooking, I personally do not feel I'd ever be happy with it as my primary means of cooking.  Same is very likely true for any form of electric cooktop surface, but I have very little actual experience with other cooktops, I just know that if they don't have flames, it probably won't cook like I want.
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2019, 10:19:15 AM »

@LowSlowJoe

The 120V induction hob is the coleman camp stove of the induction world. You are doing induction a great disservice by comparing the 120V induction hob to your 18,000 btu burner residential/commercial range when you say, "I can get higher BTU output from my gas stove than I can with most induction burners". If you were to compare apples to apples (240V induction range to any gas range) you will find the induction range will have higher highs and lower lows. I would never compare my personal experience with the 240V induction range I owned to a coleman camp stove to say induction is far superior to gas at putting heat in a pan because it is just as invalid of a comparison as the one you made. That was my point. That said, did you see the 1st video in post 33 above (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h45dzeugIZw)? In it at the 3:15 mark, a $69 120V induction hob out performs an 18,000 btu burner on a $3,000 range, which is the opposite of your experience.

Your point about using gas vs induction as it relates to wok cooking is spot on. I am not a huge fan stir fry so wok cooking is not a priority in my house. I never lift a pan off the burner and cook anything elevated above the burner, but I do agree with you that for wok cooking, I'd prefer gas as well. It is pretty much the only time I would actually prefer gas that I can think of.

I am not trying to win you over, Joe. My experiences and observations are just counter to yours. Neither of which is right or wrong.



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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2019, 11:05:48 AM »

I started another poll. I was part of another similar poll elsewhere where the overwhelming majority of the people responding to a poll posted that their preference for gas vs. induction was overwhelmingly in favor of gas, whether the audience had any experience with induction or not. The results were probably 15:1 in favor of gas. The funny thing was that when you filtered the responses to those that had actual experience with both gas and induction residential ranges (not 120V countertop units), 3 people picked induction to 0 picking gas. It was ironic just how skewed the results were when actual experience with both units was taken into account vs. ignored.
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2019, 04:09:24 PM »

I'm seriously looking at induction now, but my wife's not on board yet. Several models out there look like they'd drop into our current opening. Probably only 30% of our current cookware is compatible so we'd have to get some replacements.  Don't want to go too high end since we may not be at this location for too many more years. The Frigidaire Gallery 36" looks like a good value. 
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2019, 04:28:03 PM »

I'm seriously looking at induction now, but my wife's not on board yet. Several models out there look like they'd drop into our current opening. Probably only 30% of our current cookware is compatible so we'd have to get some replacements.  Don't want to go too high end since we may not be at this location for too many more years. The Frigidaire Gallery 36" looks like a good value.
When people see an induction range they see glass flat top and think electric. If resale is an important consideration, and gas is available, you might want to take the future buyer's perception into consideration too. I am a fan of induction but a con that some are not happy with is they are noisy. They buzz or hum and it gets louder at the higher settings. Whether that would bother you is very subjective. You can cook and or provide some heat with a gas range that you cannot do with an induction range, should you experience a power outage. To me those were the big negatives. I am sure there are others but I cannot think of them at the moment.
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2019, 04:44:59 PM »

What powers an induction range? 
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2019, 04:56:28 PM »

What powers an induction range?
Electricity.

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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2019, 04:57:28 PM »

Ta Da...Hence you could have voted...

What powers an induction range?
Electricity.
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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2019, 05:21:19 PM »

Ta Da...Hence you could have voted...

What powers an induction range?
Electricity.
Nope! Electric radiant and induction are 2 different technologies that fall on each side of gas.

In my opinion from a cooking on a range standpoint, an induction range is better than gas and both are way better than your typical radiant electric range. From a cleanup / safety standpoint induction is way better than gas or your typical radiant electric range. From my experience gas is way better than radiant electric, but induction is king over both. So electric is both better than gas, and worse. :-\

For an oven, I prefer electric over gas.

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Re: Cooking with gas or electricity.
« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2019, 09:10:50 PM »

You brought up Electric radiant, not me.  I did not specify natural gas or propane, so not sure why you chose to distinguish between different electric types...
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