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Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« on: August 28, 2020, 03:32:13 PM »

On the verge of starting the build and scared I'll wish I did something differently.
I'm set on a Memphis Elite as well as a Tec Grill. My space is limited and those are both large (the small Tec is too small).

Do I need a sink? Kitchen is not terribly close, and I thought I'd want it but maybe I don't. Would like a filtered water dispenser be of more use? I guess I may be able to add that if I ever decide I need it.

How's my layout? Would you change anything? What must I have that I don't?

It looks like there is a 36" Tec so maybe, but maybe they don't make it anymore...can't tell.

I'm open to all opinions and appreciate any help you could lend.

Thank you!
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2020, 03:45:14 PM »

I like your plan.  I'd keep the sink because I like to be able to wash my hands frequently without touching a door knob and utensils, etc.  And add a reverse osmosis unit for drinking water.  I can't remember the brand we have in the kitchen but I can check if you'd like and it wasn't expensive.  It's filtered and fits easily under the sink and doesn't need electricity.  I visit the spring (as I call it) frequently this time of year.  It's been triple digits here every day.  Just my  :2cents:.
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2020, 04:21:15 PM »

I would keep the sink also the with the TEC you can get a flat top so no need to add one of those, but I would look in to some type of burners like and induction or gas burners, two burners would probably be sufficient, that you could toss a pot of water or what ever if you need.

I just got back from where I get my propane. they have Sabre grills there, they are an infrared grill. Seem to be built nice an different variations. They also have Napoleon grills  but lift the lid on both and you can tell a big difference.
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2020, 04:27:41 PM »

First thing you need to ask yourself about the sink is, do I "really" need it?
Can be a lot of work running water to it, running waste water away from it, and are you in a place were the water line(s) could freeze...
For the fridge, again would you really use it enough? If it sits out there in heat when you are not using it, it is an unnecessary expense unless you unplug it or  turn it off when not in use.
If you have a large covered patio attached to your house, with the ODK there and you entertain right there a lot, then it might make sense.

I opted not to put either in the ODK as it is strictly used for cooking, not entertaining as it is away from house.
Our back patio (for entertaining) has a full size refrigerator we turn on day before we have guests, and turn back off after they leave.
Here is what I've done. I have the Memphis Elite as well.
https://pelletfan.com/index.php?topic=6014.msg60331#msg60331

If you search the forum for Outdoor Kitchen or ODK, you should find several threads of builds people here have done.

Hope that helps some.

FYI- Add plenty of electrical outlets. Cheap to add and avoids "wishing I had one here" later.
       And don't forget some storage for pellets.

« Last Edit: August 28, 2020, 04:32:34 PM by 02ebz06 »
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2020, 05:32:58 PM »

@BigDave83: Yeah, with the Tec, you can use it as an infrared Grill (I'd use it to sear mainly after sous-vide), flat top, and you can ALSO use it an an induction cooktop by removing the grill and putting a pot on the glass. Pretty ingenious IMHO. Some other really cool attachments like a deep fryer as well, but don't plan on trying that one.

@02ebz06: Nice setup! I like your battery backup idea!
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2020, 07:23:45 PM »

Nice design! Keep the sink as long as you have access to running water, and a way to dispose of the grey water. I would also consider swapping the fridge with the tech ~ that will give you a food prep area next to the sink rather than at the end of the counter. That also lessens using the glass top of the tech for anything other than cooking.

Just the humble opinion of an  old man.
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2020, 07:30:35 PM »

I will admit in advance that I did not read the recommendations of others in advance of this post.

One thing that I would suggest is replacing the sink with some sort of a griddle.  You can always take the dishes inside to wash.  I don't fully know your situation or preference.  I have a deep sink in my garage that I use for cleaning large cooking pans.  That may be an option for you, but maybe not.

My preference would be for more types of cooking options outside and leave the cleaning options for inside unless you have larger cooking pans that you can't clean inside.  A power washer may be another option for those circumstances.

Anyway, let us know what you decide and share pics of your design and final outcome with us.

Best of luck to you.
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2020, 07:37:50 PM »

I wash my utensils and thermometer probes after touching raw and under cooked meat while cooking. I am always running into the kitchen to do it.

I think a sink would be great. I would take a sink over a refrigerator.

I would make sure that the corner does not present any issues opening cabinets or drawers. Also, I like prep space for things like cutting vegetables.

I am not sure if the refrigerator area counter top is also a prep area.

Do you need to be concerned about heat dissipation?
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2020, 08:35:08 PM »

We had an outdoor kitchen in Pasadena with no sink.  Then had work done on the kitchen and was able to put in a sink outside.  I was lucky, my outdoor kitchen backed right onto the wall in the house that had the indoor kitchen.  They hooked into waste line and hot and cold water.  Used that outdoor sink sink ALL the time to wash things -- boards, utensils, hands, veggies, etc. Also used it for cleaning up after gardening and gardening chores. But it does depend on your needs and uses.
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2020, 08:48:13 PM »

Where do you live.  If you are going to have freezing weather in winter, then some special consideration with the sink. If your cook center backs up to a house wall, you can organize a freeze proof arrangement for winter. i.e. a shutoff valve that drains from the inside of the wall. I like your design and choice of grills. Not sure I saw a 36" Infrared unit.  Anyhow, good luck on your project. :clap:
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2020, 09:50:58 PM »

I think that a double sink is more convenient than a single basin, so I would add that to the build.
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2020, 10:02:40 PM »

Yes, you want a sink!
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2020, 10:22:17 AM »

I have a sink and have found washing the grates in it keeps the mess outside. I used an electric hot water tank controlled by a switch which allows me to keep it turned off when not needed. Its tucked in under the counter and works like a charm...
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2020, 12:44:26 PM »

I've contemplated an outdoor kitchen a number of times but never got around to it. I started my design by considering the functionality, what do I need to accommodate the task to be performed. Grill (versatile pellet), sink (with disposal), refrigerator, ample prep area, lighting, storage space and environment protection. I would not have two grills, unless one was a traditional propane grill with side burners.   :2cents:
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Re: Advice needed - New Outdoor Kitchen
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2020, 01:30:33 PM »

I love it, I wish I had the space for something like this. :)
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