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[reubenray]

When they all (college and pro) bent down to kiss the hand (not my word choice) of blm they all lost me as a supporter.

[Bentley]

I do like to have an open forum.  I do expect folks who do not want to participate in threads like this to use their best judgement and maybe stay out of them.  We try to identify a thread that is going to have the potential to do that and put something to that effect in the title. 

Having said that, I have spent the last 20 minutes on the Black Lives Matter web site.  If you are going to make a statement like this, and I am going to leave it up, you are going to have to point me to documentation that supports your assertion.  Again, you have 24 hours to show me documentation and I will reinstate your post!

[triplebq]

When the sports venues deteriorate into political a spectrum, time to pursue other means of entertainment.

Really BLM is a terrorist group? WOW

[Bentley]

reubenray...Again, you have 24 hours to show me documentation and I will reinstate your post!

[Bentley]

You are right, I can delete your comments and I am. And yes, you can stand by your statements, I just don't have to published them on my site.

[hughver]

Really BLM is a terrorist group? WOW

Terrorist Group: A group of people that support violence as a means to achieve an objective (My definition).

[reubenray]

reubenray...Again, you have 24 hours to show me documentation and I will reinstate your post!

It is on the news on a regular basis.  What other proof do you need?  I won't waste my time.

[Bentley]

Sounds like we have come to an agreement!

Now as a member.  Not sure how you can tell me what is on a web site that you say you would not waste a "millisecond" looking at?  I had no idea what was on it either until I went to it.  I do not agree with the efforts to defund the police. If you had said you were against that I could have said, OK, he makes a valid point for my views.  But to post that the sites main goal is to do X when there is clearly no evidence of that I can't abide by.  An a person that you consider acting in an objectionable fashion, I get that also.  But just because they are carrying a BLM sign does not mean BLM condones or disapproves of the action.  I saw nothing that indicates they condone violence against law enforcement. 

And to be honest, not sure what any of these comments have to do with the State of Sports in the US?  I could live with someone saying I will not watch sports that approve of or having anything to do with BLM.  But to have folks come on and say they are X & Y and have nothing to back it up with but conjecture and the actions of others who we have no idea whether they are connected with BLM or not...again, just cant abide by that!

[Kristin Meredith]

Well yes, tv news is such a reliable source of accurate and truthful information. Hmm, maybe there was a reason we could not cite to it as evidence in Court?

[yorkdude]

Well yes, tv news is such a reliable source of accurate and truthful information. Hmm, maybe there was a reason we could not cite to it as evidence in Court?

I have to opine. My sister is a lesbian and partnered with a black lady and they live in Portland. They moved there for inclusivity, they hate it now. According to them it is NOT inclusive, not even close. They are both radically left leaning (marches, banners etc.) This is not from what I have read, watched or imagined. Best I can recall our conversation solely based on this post, is this.
BLM is a horribly disorganized belief that has been hijacked, you can fly a rainbow flag and walk the walk (as they do), if you are not militant in your actions, meaning wanting to overthrow everything and everyone then you are OUT. They have lived together for 22 years and they have NEVER seen such division. They no longer march for BLM, they are disgusted by the beliefs and motives they claim to stand for. Ban me if you need to. Hopefully you don’t but this is what Sis tells me with zero of my opinion interjected. She lives it and says it is a ———— show.

[Bentley]

What I take away from your post is folks are out there representing that they are for BLM but are really just presenting the platform they chose to address? I guess one could blame BLM for that, but I am not sure how?  Again, can you or can you ask them what about the beliefs and motives of BLM disgust's them?  These are broad sweeping statements that are not supported by any information on the BLM web site.

I would really be interested in what they have to say.  And how that it is being manifested by BLM?

Best I can recall our conversation solely based on this post, is this.
BLM is a horribly disorganized belief that has been hijacked...They no longer march for BLM, they are disgusted by the beliefs and motives they claim to stand for.

[Kristin Meredith]

I guess yorkdude, I would have to ask is their experience only limited to Portland?  Because Portland seems a total mess -- you have antifa fighting white supremacists in the streets, so not sure what that is representing.

I can tell you about our small BLM movement and marches here in Culpeper.  There have been two -- one with about 80 people and one with several hundred.  They obtained permits and marched.  They had many ministers present, shared stories (at least two black local nurses publicly shared their stories when they gathered together at the end of the march down the main street), and prayed at the end, holding hands with local police and sheriffs. No violence, no destroyed property, no police injured.  Maybe that is just typical of a small town, maybe just unusual and local to this community. I don't try and extrapolate and say "Well all BLM folks are Baptist ministers, nurses and police".

[yorkdude]

According to my sister ( no opinion, no other influences). Originally it was that Black lives matter and an understanding that all lives matter but the focus was more emphasis on the black lives that are televised. When (her words, not mine) it morphed into accelerated escalation of any and all resistance, all bets were off. They do not live in a utopian belief, they are however the gay mixed couple that you might see in a coffee shop, enjoying a sandwich on the patio in New York (they lived there also). They believe that we should have electric cars but don’t own one. They believe that we are not energy conscious but complain when they get their power shut off because of the fires currently happening (that is a side note), I guess the best way to see it, at least from my eyes is this. I honestly think ALL lives matter, I don’t share their political beliefs and I, as well as her are fine with that aspect. What we do share is this, what you believe is your business accordingly mine are mine. To close I would like to say that the reason I shared personal information about my Sis (having discussed this specific thread, a few hours ago with her and she said “ go fo it”), we both  don’t need anyone, any entity and especially anyone who is not living what 90% of us live telling us anything. Beth (sis) nor I watch any sports, awards shows etc. I may change on sports but only if they play and keep their mouth shut. I am done with my rant but will be on here and engaged if all is good, it is with me.

[yorkdude]

I guess yorkdude, I would have to ask is their experience only limited to Portland?  Because Portland seems a total mess -- you have antifa fighting white supremacists in the streets, so not sure what that is representing.

I can tell you about our small BLM movement and marches here in Culpeper.  There have been two -- one with about 80 people and one with several hundred.  They obtained permits and marched.  They had many ministers present, shared stories (at least two black local nurses publicly shared their stories when they gathered together at the end of the march down the main street), and prayed at the end, holding hands with local police and sheriffs. No violence, no destroyed property, no police injured.  Maybe that is just typical of a small town, maybe just unusual and local to this community. I don't try and extrapolate and say "Well all BLM folks are Baptist ministers, nurses and police".

They met in New York in Greenwich village ( not sure how to spell it) and left there about 15 years ago due to outrageous costs with their apartment. Oh, I forgot to say that I have NEVER been in deli heaven like that.

[Bentley]

I appreciate the dialogue.  I am having trouble understating your response.  Are the 2 of them referring to what is going on with BLM in Portland?  I do not understand what is mean by "accelerated escalation"?

I guess I was trying to understand what disgust's them about the beliefs and motives of BLM? What belief or motive?  Or am I not understanding what you were saying about them in regards to that?

According to my sister ( no opinion, no other influences). Originally it was that Black lives matter and an understanding that all lives matter but the focus was more emphasis on the black lives that are televised. When (her words, not mine) it morphed into accelerated escalation of any and all resistance, all bets were off.