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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2021, 10:19:19 AM »



That would be very beneficial to have I reckon.  I had a power strip plugged in to run the fridge and phone chargers off of and didn't know why the light on it was flashing super fast.  Then the ones I have are fine for tools but not the house I take it?

If it’s fairly old then probably doesn’t have a clean sine wave. A lot of generators won’t list sine but if it is clean they will at it is a selling point. They also might list it under frequency disruption. You want one that specifies clean sine or low frequency disruption. 
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I have the paperwork on both so I'll check to see what it says.  They are both older ones but I can't remember how old.  I passed on the Champions too Yorkdude.  Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2021, 11:36:50 AM »

I have a 6000 watt Powerstroke unit, which would not fit your needs.  Problem is, you have to be home for the unit to be effective.  If you are not home you can't turn it on.  The past three times here in NJ where we have lost power for significant amount of time, we have been on vacation and unable to start up the unit.  I have two fridge/freezers, so have lost a total of 6 fridge/freezer loads during those events.  This year I pulled the trigger and had a whole house generator installed.  It will probably turn out to be a very expensive insurance policy, but at least piece of mind insurance. 
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2021, 11:39:42 AM »

I have a 6000 watt Powerstroke unit, which would not fit your needs.  Problem is, you have to be home for the unit to be effective.  If you are not home you can't turn it on.  The past three times here in NJ where we have lost power for significant amount of time, we have been on vacation and unable to start up the unit.  I have two fridge/freezers, so have lost a total of 6 fridge/freezer loads during those events.  This year I pulled the trigger and had a whole house generator installed.  It will probably turn out to be a very expensive insurance policy, but at least piece of mind insurance.

Which one did you have installed?
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2021, 03:06:10 PM »

Did not mean to hijack this thread.  I installed the Generac 70432 which has the 200amp transfer switch.
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2021, 04:39:17 PM »

Did not mean to hijack this thread.  I installed the Generac 70432 which has the 200amp transfer switch.
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2021, 07:43:29 PM »

Did not mean to hijack this thread.  I installed the Generac 70432 which has the 200amp transfer switch.

A wise choice in the long run.  I'm in the better to have it and not need it at this point.
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2021, 09:42:51 AM »

Quote from: cookingjnj link=topic=6570.msg67220#msg67If you a220 date=1613839010
This year I pulled the trigger and had a whole house generator installed. 

I assume that you had an automatic switch over installed with it.

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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2021, 06:02:12 PM »

Did not mean to hijack this thread.  I installed the Generac 70432 which has the 200amp transfer switch.
Not any worries about anything you said, I am getting an education and I appreciate it.
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2021, 07:20:19 PM »

Yes hugver, a 200Amp automatic transfer switch.
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2021, 09:48:19 AM »

So I have looked at many, I don’t need a whole house and I also don’t need it to start automatically and a switch over feature. My question is are all generac generators, dual fuel have a clean sine wave? From what I gather the sine wave is further described as invertor, am I on the right track?
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2021, 10:41:29 AM »

I asked Generac if the output of the generators was a pure sine wave and never got a response.  ???
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2021, 10:44:54 AM »

What is confusing is that we have used our Davey crocket portable grill out on the lake with several different generators and never had any problems?
I darn sure don’t want to have any issues with our refrigerator’s (quite new) or anything else like a portable A/C in case of an outage?
Not an electronic guy and sure don’t want to learn the hard way. It’s awfully easy to let the smoke out of an electrical appliance but I am confident that you will not be able to get it back in!
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2021, 10:54:33 AM »

So I have looked at many, I don’t need a whole house and I also don’t need it to start automatically and a switch over feature. My question is are all generac generators, dual fuel have a clean sine wave? From what I gather the sine wave is further described as invertor, am I on the right track?

Yes, the sine wave is the inverter part of the generator.  You are on the right track. I guess the generator generates the electricity (duh) but the inverter is what takes the DC and makes it AC.

Here is a link to Honda explaining it. Granted this is an ad for why their generator is better. But if you ignore that part it is a good explanation. Hope the link is OK Bentley. Not promoting a product, just a link to good information.

https://www.hondapowerequipment.co.nz/products/generators/choosing-the-right-generator/what-is-an-inverter-generator/
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2021, 11:23:25 AM »

So I have looked at many, I don’t need a whole house and I also don’t need it to start automatically and a switch over feature. My question is are all generac generators, dual fuel have a clean sine wave? From what I gather the sine wave is further described as invertor, am I on the right track?

Yes, the sine wave is the inverter part of the generator.  You are on the right track. I guess the generator generates the electricity (duh) but the inverter is what takes the DC and makes it AC.

Here is a link to Honda explaining it. Granted this is an ad for why their generator is better. But if you ignore that part it is a good explanation. Hope the link is OK Bentley. Not promoting a product, just a link to good information.

https://www.hondapowerequipment.co.nz/products/generators/choosing-the-right-generator/what-is-an-inverter-generator/
Shazam, thanks a lot. I was sure hoping that we were on the right track.
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Re: Portable generators
« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2021, 01:12:40 PM »

I believe the generator (alternator) actually puts out high frequency AC which is converted to DC, then the inverter converts the DC back to stable (constant 60 cycle) sine wave AC. The basic reason for this conversion is because the the generators primary frequency/voltage is subject to load variations, this variation is corrected by using an electronically controlled frequency/voltage regulated inverter.  :2cents:
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