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Bentley

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June 6th, 1944...
« on: June 06, 2023, 01:12:41 PM »

79 years ago today!

I am truly worried that we are destine to repeat History, as we no longer have a sense of it.  When I was a lad, you simply learned about this date and you saw remembrances of it through out the day in newspapers and other media...That no longer seems to be the case, or maybe I am disengaged from main stream media?  Your thoughts.

To all that took part, you are almost all gone, but I still say thank you and I will not forget you!





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Re: June 6th, 1944...
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2023, 03:01:48 PM »

The Geographic channel has been running a documentary on D-day. Supposedly containing film never before seen. It was very interesting.
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Re: June 6th, 1944...
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2023, 06:00:15 PM »

                                                 
 As Bent's photos show, a few years back, we had the privilege of visiting the American Cemetery at Normandy and walking Pointe du Hoc and some of the cliffs and were able to look down on the beaches that all those men had to take on June 6, 1944. It was an incredible experience that I wish all Americans could have. So I wish to remember all those men today and I am posting significant portions of Ronald Reagan's speech given at Pointe du Hoc on June 6, 1984 during the 40th year memorial of the landings.

"We're here to mark that day in history when the Allied armies joined in battle to reclaim this continent to liberty. For 4 long years, much of Europe had been under a terrible shadow. Free nations had fallen, Jews cried out in the camps, millions cried out for liberation. Europe was enslaved, and the world prayed for its rescue. Here in Normandy the rescue began. Here the Allies stood and fought against tyranny in a giant undertaking unparalleled in human history.

We stand on a lonely, windswept point on the northern shore of France. The air is soft, but 40 years ago at this moment, the air was dense with smoke and the cries of men, and the air was filled with the crack of rifle fire and the roar of cannon. At dawn, on the morning of the 6th of June, 1944, 225 Rangers jumped off the British landing craft and ran to the bottom of these cliffs. Their mission was one of the most difficult and daring of the invasion: to climb these sheer and desolate cliffs and take out the enemy guns. The Allies had been told that some of the mightiest of these guns were here and they would be trained on the beaches to stop the Allied advance.

The Rangers looked up and saw the enemy soldiers -- the edge of the cliffs shooting down at them with machineguns and throwing grenades. And the American Rangers began to climb. They shot rope ladders over the face of these cliffs and began to pull themselves up. When one Ranger fell, another would take his place. When one rope was cut, a Ranger would grab another and begin his climb again. They climbed, shot back, and held their footing. Soon, one by one, the Rangers pulled themselves over the top, and in seizing the firm land at the top of these cliffs, they began to seize back the continent of Europe. Two hundred and twenty-five came here. After 2 days of fighting, only 90 could still bear arms.
Behind me is a memorial that symbolizes the Ranger daggers that were thrust into the top of these cliffs. And before me are the men who put them there.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. These are the men who took the cliffs. These are the champions who helped free a continent. These are the heroes who helped end a war.

Gentlemen, I look at you and I think of the words of Stephen Spender's poem. You are men who in your ``lives fought for life . . . and left the vivid air signed with your honor.''

I think I know what you may be thinking right now -- thinking ``we were just part of a bigger effort; everyone was brave that day.'' Well, everyone was. Do you remember the story of Bill Millin of the 51st Highlanders? Forty years ago today, British troops were pinned down near a bridge, waiting desperately for help. Suddenly, they heard the sound of bagpipes, and some thought they were dreaming. Well, they weren't. They looked up and saw Bill Millin with his bagpipes, leading the reinforcements and ignoring the smack of the bullets into the ground around him.
Lord Lovat was with him -- Lord Lovat of Scotland, who calmly announced when he got to the bridge, ``Sorry I'm a few minutes late,'' as if he'd been delayed by a traffic jam, when in truth he'd just come from the bloody fighting on Sword Beach, which he and his men had just taken.
There was the impossible valor of the Poles who threw themselves between the enemy and the rest of Europe as the invasion took hold, and the unsurpassed courage of the Canadians who had already seen the horrors of war on this coast. They knew what awaited them there, but they would not be deterred. And once they hit Juno Beach, they never looked back.

All of these men were part of a rollcall of honor with names that spoke of a pride as bright as the colors they bore: the Royal Winnipeg Rifles, Poland's 24th Lancers, the Royal Scots Fusiliers, the Screaming Eagles, the Yeomen of England's armored divisions, the forces of Free France, the Coast Guard's ``Matchbox Fleet'' and you, the American Rangers.

Forty summers have passed since the battle that you fought here. You were young the day you took these cliffs; some of you were hardly more than boys, with the deepest joys of life before you. Yet, you risked everything here. Why? Why did you do it? What impelled you to put aside the instinct for self-preservation and risk your lives to take these cliffs? What inspired all the men of the armies that met here? We look at you, and somehow we know the answer. It was faith and belief; it was loyalty and love.

The men of Normandy had faith that what they were doing was right, faith that they fought for all humanity, faith that a just God would grant them mercy on this beachhead or on the next. It was the deep knowledge -- and pray God we have not lost it -- that there is a profound, moral difference between the use of force for liberation and the use of force for conquest. You were here to liberate, not to conquer, and so you and those others did not doubt your cause. And you were right not to doubt.

You all knew that some things are worth dying for. One's country is worth dying for, and democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man. All of you loved liberty. All of you were willing to fight tyranny, and you knew the people of your countries were behind you.....

We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace, than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We've learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.

But we try always to be prepared for peace; prepared to deter aggression; prepared to negotiate the reduction of arms; and, yes, prepared to reach out again in the spirit of reconciliation.....
Here, in this place where the West held together, let us make a vow to our dead. Let us show them by our actions that we understand what they died for. Let our actions say to them the words for which Matthew Ridgway listened: ``I will not fail thee nor forsake thee.''

Strengthened by their courage, heartened by their value [valor], and borne by their memory, let us continue to stand for the ideals for which they lived and died."

RESPECT -- HONOR -- TEACH
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Re: June 6th, 1944...
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2023, 09:26:34 PM »

Kristin put up a flag pole!  My flag pole light came in yesterday, and now that it has had a day to charge, put it up today!  Wish there had been a breeze, but I think it will work well for $30!  This seemed like a good place to post it!








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Re: June 6th, 1944...
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2023, 07:31:00 AM »

Over the years many have served from all races and creeds and many have died or been wounded protecting our great Nation.  I in the past have been honored to serve with some and for that i will be forever grateful. 

What many do not realize that like other counties we do not have any laws on respecting our Flag or on even how it is t be displayed.  so IMO it is often up to us as Kristian said “to Respect, Honor, Teach”.
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Re: June 6th, 1944...
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Re: June 6th, 1944...
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2023, 02:10:37 PM »

4 USC Ch. 1: THE FLAG
From Title 4—FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES

§6. Time and occasions for display
(a) It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed 24 hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.

My question would be, do you consider this "properly" illuminated?

Flag Illumination

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Re: June 6th, 1944...
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2023, 02:19:15 PM »

Looks OK to me.
They don't say what their definition of "properly illuminated" is.

EDIT:
I found this on the American Legion web site:

Question:
What is considered proper illumination when flying the flag at night?
Answer:
“Proper illumination” is a light specifically placed to illuminate the flag (preferred) or having a light source sufficient to illuminate the flag so it is recognizable as such by the casual observer (Americanism Commission)


So, based on that, I'd say you are good with that light.
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Re: June 6th, 1944...
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2023, 03:10:24 PM »

4 USC Ch. 1: THE FLAG
From Title 4—FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES

§6. Time and occasions for display
(a) It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed 24 hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.

My question would be, do you consider this "properly" illuminated?

Flag Illumination





As you can see the Federal Government guidance to the public is ambiguous and open to interpretation.  IMO some would say no others would say it is ok.  I personally would rater see the flag flown 24 7 with or with out a light rather than have protesters storming or burning it.  Again just my opinion
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