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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2023, 03:58:56 PM »

Here is a sample plate from today's lunch. The pita chips have the roasted red pepper and feta dip. The plate is on the chocolate cutting board.

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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2023, 09:15:33 PM »

Looks Wonderful!  Atta Boy to Larry!
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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #47 on: December 15, 2023, 07:16:14 AM »

It all looks wonderful and sounds like a great event.  Wish I could have tasted Larry's latkes, they sound superb!
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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2024, 08:10:28 PM »

It is that time of year again for the 2024 Christmas Party. I am in a new town, with a new group of people. Even though I haven't figured out the full menu, this gives me an opportunity to finetune old recipes and experiment with new ones. The date for the party is December 10.

I do want to do the aged beef again, so it is time to get started. This year I have three top sirloin roasts, so I am going to try an experiment. One will be dry aged the traditional way. Last year Larry (focuspuller), was kind enough to give me a dry aging bag, which will be used on another roast. The third one I will wet age in the cryo-packaging.

My goal is to go 30 days. There is no magic to the number. My wife and I just got back from a mini vacation. Since the party date is set, that leaves 30 days if I get the refrigerator good to go by tomorrow. 
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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #49 on: November 11, 2024, 01:02:13 PM »

The traditionally dry aged sirloin roast went in the fridge last night. Starting weight 8.77 lbs. The refrigerator temp has been averaging 36* and the humidity 75%.

I intended to use the Umai bag for a second roast. However, I had a hard time sealing the bag properly. After several attempts, I butchered the bag to the point where it wasn't going to work. I have not used the vacuum sealer in a long time. It has been difficult to work with since day one, so I'm chalking it up to mechanical error. Thanks to Larry, another bag is on its way. Hopefully, with a little more practice using the sealer, it will yield better results.

I would like to see for myself an objective comparison between the wet and two dry aging methods. I am crossing my fingers that it will work out. My guess is all three will taste slightly different, but in the end, they will all taste good. With any luck, hopefully people will enjoy it.
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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2024, 03:08:56 PM »

Are you using the bags because you are worried about the beef picking up fridge smells?
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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2024, 04:04:51 PM »

Are you using the bags because you are worried about the beef picking up fridge smells?

No, I have no issue with the traditional dry aging process. I was quite pleased with the results last year.

I am doing it mostly out of curiosity. There are people who swear by them and others that swear at them! As long as I have a bag, I figured I would try and  see what it is all about.
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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2024, 11:44:51 AM »

They say ignorance is bliss, I am no longer blissful.

Last week I took a Safe Serve food safety class. It was taught by the health inspector that certifies the kitchen I work out of. The subject of dry aging meat came up. He did not go as far to say that it couldn’t be done, but he had a lot of reservations. For the process to be approved, he would need to see a detailed plan from start to finish. Once that plan was submitted, he would take it to another group for approval. If I were a betting person, I would say the odds are that I am a long longshot for my home setup being okayed, (a desk fan sitting in a dorm fridge with a bowl of water).

Based on the conversation in class, the only scenario that I can see being approved, would be if you had a commercial “dry aging refrigerator” and the meat was in a bag (like the Umai bag). He did not like the idea of open-air aging at all, even with a constant readout for temp and humidity. Using a bag made it easier for him to at least consider the possibility that it could work.

Since I no longer have plausible deniability, I have decided not to serve aged beef for the party. The roast that is now dry aging, I will cook for our family Christmas dinner. The other two roasts are in the freezer and will be thawed and smoked for the party.

I am disappointed that I will not be able to finish my experiment. I am still interested in looking into the bag a bit more. I have tried contacting them to see if they have any outside documentation or research that would show USDA approval for their drying process. So far it has been hard to reach anyone.
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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2024, 02:47:46 PM »

No wonder I like government so much!

You can show him this and tell him it was done at a non USDA approved facility in Stevensburg, VA and no deaths were reported!  Reported is the key word!

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Re: That time of year again
« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2024, 05:15:51 PM »

No wonder I like government so much!

You can show him this and tell him it was done at a non USDA approved facility in Stevensburg, VA and no deaths were reported!  Reported is the key word!

Thanks Bentley. That made my day!

After a lot of head scratching and more internet searches than I would care to admit, I think I have figured out the menu.

2024 Christmas Party Menu

Appetizers
Hummus with veggies
Smoked Cream Cheese coated in fajita seasoning – drizzled with rib candy sauce - served with crackers
Tossed Salad
Spinach Artichoke Soup

Entrées
Smoked Beef Top Sirloin
Goat Cheese Stuffed Pork Tenderloin with Red Wine Balsamic Cherry Sauce

Veggies
Roasted Root Vegetables – Potatoes, Carrots, Parsnips,
Broccoli Casserole

Desserts
Chocolate Dessert board with chocolate dipped fruit
Cookies
Butterscotch Pumpkin Trifle with Gingerbread

Beverages
Coffee
Tea
Hot Chocolate bar
Punch






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