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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2020, 10:46:21 PM »

This is all foreign to me. In my area, dogs are not prevalent. The few stands that are around serve coneys. Thin sauce, very fine beef, greasy and oily but in a good way.  A variation of Cincinnati chili is my hunch, but a little more on the chili side than true Cincinnati sauce.

I googled the place that you guys are referring to in this thread. I've seen pics but never actually ate a dog with that type of sauce.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2020, 08:36:29 AM »

FMT, is it the Detroit coney style that is in your area?
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2020, 10:35:28 AM »

FMT, is it the Detroit coney style that is in your area?

Without ever having one in Detroit, I would have initially thought that they were probably similar. Upon inspecting a couple places on Yelp, they seem to be quite different.

The Detroit places definitely seem thicker like a roux or similar was used. The places in Fort Wayne are almost like a broth consistency.  It soaks into the bun and you have very fine bits of highly seasoned beef left to eat with your dog.

These pics are pulled from Yelp from Detroit area places.




These are from Coney Island in Fort Wayne.



As you can see, pretty different stuff. People come from all over to get the ones here. I like them a few times a year, but can't say I'd do much traveling for a coney dog no matter the style.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2020, 11:38:33 AM »

they all look good and are making me hungry for some.  I just bought 3 packs of hot dogs at the local deli.  Two jalapeno and cheddar and one chili cheese flavored pack.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2020, 12:37:25 PM »

I have always thought the Detroit Coney is as close to Wienerschnitzel sauce as I have ever seen.  Have always said if I get to Detroit, American Coney Island & Lafayette Coney Island is the 1st and last stop!

Cincinnati chili, man what a disappointment that was!
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2020, 01:01:49 PM »

this claims to be a weinerschnitzel chili sauce knock off

Ingredients
1 pound lean ground beef
1/3 pound lean ground pork
6 cups water
1/4 cup cornstarch
1/2 cup Wondra Flour (this is a finely milled flour that mixes instantly with cold water)
1 (6-ounce) can tomato paste
1 - 2 tablespoons white vinegar (it is important this be white vinegar, not white wine vinegar)
1/4 to 1/2 cup chili powder
2 teaspoons salt
1 tablespoon dried onion flakes (the flakes are a key ingredient, don't substitute dried onion granules)
1 - 2 teaspoons granulated sugar
1/2 - 1 teaspoon garlic powder
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
Instructions
Step 1
In a medium non-stick saucepan, cook the meat over medium-low heat, taking care to get the meat well crumbled (almost like grain). You don't need to brown it, just grey it. Cover the pan and cook over low heat for about 10 minutes.

Remove the meat from the pan and drain off most of the fat (if you used lean meat, there shouldn't be too much fat).

Step 2
While the meat is steaming (simmering); put the cornstarch and Wondra into a large measuring cup or deep bowl, slowly add the water, whisking until well blended. Add the vinegar and tomato paste, blending well. Set aside.

In another bowl, combine the chili powder, salt, onion flakes, sugar, garlic powder, and pepper. Mix well. Set aside.

Step 3
Add the water mixture to the now-empty pan and stir well, return the meat to the pan along with the spice mixture; bring to a simmer, stirring often. Simmer for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2020, 01:03:14 PM »

I have always thought the Detroit Coney is as close to Wienerschnitzel sauce as I have ever seen.  Have always said if I get to Detroit, American Coney Island & Lafayette Coney Island is the 1st and last stop!

Cincinnati chili, man what a disappointment that was!

I'd be interested in your take on the ones here. It's probably a cousin of Cincinnati chili, but it is different for sure. You were 2 short hours from them when I dropped you off in Indianapolis.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2020, 02:04:20 PM »

If you are trying to have the texture of thinner smoother chili sauce with a fine grain of ground beef, you have to start cooking the beef and the water together from the start. The simmering water/raw beef breaks down into the water very quickly as you stir it.
That’s the only method I know of to get the smoother style hot dog chili. I love it.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2020, 05:44:31 PM »

Pretty sure I remember this one too, it was the vinegar note that tipped me off.  Was also a hard pass on likeness.


this claims to be a weinerschnitzel chili sauce knock off


To me a watery for lack of a better word chili would not be my 1st pick for a chili dog sauce...but can there even be a bad chili dog?  I am getting so board sitting around the house, can only work in the yard for a couple of hours in the morning before the Swamp air starts...It maybe time to just get in the truck!

I'd be interested in your take on the ones here. It's probably a cousin of Cincinnati chili, but it is different for sure. You were 2 short hours from them when I dropped you off in Indianapolis.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2020, 12:28:53 PM »

You can try French's Chili-O seasoning and their recipe.

This is kinda how my Dad makes it.

2# ground hamburger fry in pan and chop up to your texture liking
mix in a cup to 1.5 cups of flour to make a roux
add pint or so of water after you tighten up the hamburger with the roux
add cup of chili powder
add mix of 50/50 ketchup and mustard to your desired liquidity of the sauce

Lew, I was unable to find French's Chili-O locally, McCormick seems to own the Phoenix market. I found it on Amazon and it will ship with my next order.

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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2020, 07:16:46 PM »

I know a lot of the Greeks who came to US and made chili do this, thin or not.  They also do not take take the fat out and is a reason why chili made this way usually has a great flavor with all that fat!  Its the way I have done for a lot of years

...you have to start cooking the beef and the water together from the start.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2020, 07:28:23 PM »

I know a lot of the Greeks who came to US and made chili do this, thin or not.  They also do not take take the fat out and is a reason why chili made this way usually has a great flavor with all that fat!

That brought back some great memories, Bentley.  There's a Greek family that has been operating at least two hot dog "joints" called Cony Island—one in Sioux City, Iowa and the other in Grand Island, Nebraska—for about 75 years (maybe longer).  When I was a kid, they were great "hangouts."  They were warm, welcoming people that made unbeatable cony island hot dogs.  The chili was special.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2020, 10:19:34 AM »

I have always thought the Detroit Coney is as close to Wienerschnitzel sauce as I have ever seen.  Have always said if I get to Detroit, American Coney Island & Lafayette Coney Island is the 1st and last stop!

Cincinnati chili, man what a disappointment that was!

I know I am getting to this late, but sad to hear you don't like Cincinnati chili. There are a few of them I really enjoy. Blue Ash and Skyline. What I have found to be the best hot dog chili is Custard Stand hot dog chili. It is out of West Virginia, but you can order it across the US. It has a fantastic texture and flavor. It doesn't make the hot dog bun soggy. Finely dice some raw sweet onion and a little mustard and it is happy time.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2020, 12:59:32 PM »

We went to a GoldStar location, it was close to hotel.  Could just be their brand.  I think they had cinnamon or chocolate in it, very off putting taste in chili for me.  It certainly was not a savory chili for me.


...but sad to hear you don't like Cincinnati chili. There are a few of them I really enjoy. Blue Ash and Skyline.
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Re: Chili for hot dogs?
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2020, 01:48:34 PM »

We have tried skyline and neither one of us liked it, we know a lot of people that do but it is not for us.
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